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Didn't I say that?

You provided a theory with no support thumb.gif See the first on this page.
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I smell fake review! ^^

If you're referring to my comments your nose would be wrong.

I don't work for any segment of the tech or retail industry. I'm not a pro reviewer of any kind. I'm just a school teacher in a small hick town who enjoys gaming a lot in the spring and summer months.

The initial review that started this thread was fair enough. OP simply told us what he thought and feels would make it better for the asking price. Nothing wrong with that...he possessed one and obviously used long enough it to play some games with and form some ideas and opinions about it.

Some of the comments that began to follow worked me up enough to put in my two cents with a few balancing counter points on where Razer has obviously delivered something good here.

My two cents are qualified because I actually bought the thing, am using it, and enjoying it.

I recently got the mechanical keyboard bug after 4 years of daily torturing a Lycosa, Naga, and n52te combo.

At first I got a Cooler Master TK board with blues to see how I liked the Cherry Keys. It's a great little board for $70! It wasn't what I wanted for gaming though, so I sent it to a client of mine (music student who often asks me about computer stuff) to try out for clerical purposes and shopped a bit more.

I whittled my choices down to a Max NightHawk and the BW Stealth, tried them both personally, and I settled on a BW 2013 Ultimate Stealth for a bunch of reasons, and for a little bit cheaper to boot. I definitely don't believe BW is the 'best' mechanical keyboard, nor is it the cheapest. It was however, the keyboard that most closely matched what I was looking for. No other company was making one like I wanted that I could get my hands on for less than $200. Done deal.

I came here looking around for information about various makes and models. What I found ironic was how almost every thread here was full of disinformation (not just opinions or testimonies of bad personal experiences, but blatant slander and false statements) about anything "Razer". I'm sure the same thing happens in threads about other Brands just as viciously. They're entitled to their opinions and it's great they can come here and bash away. I just got in a mood to offer up my opinions and experiences as well....many of which are exactly the opposite.

If my experiences are good ones, that means I'm a faker or a 'Fan Boy'? Fine...I hope the company makes it. They've carved out a number of markets from scratch that most of the world said, "That's stupid...no one will buy it!" A few years later....the markets are flooded with 'competing products' from companies with very deep pockets that can afford to take hits and losses for extended periods of time in order to sop up market share, and the endless Razer bashing to grab those same markets comes out of the woodworks. Go figure.

In the process of shopping for the main keyboard I also learned about the upcoming Orbweaver and wanted one. I even told the company in surveys years ago that I'd pay up to $150 for such a device (and at the time that was not at all out of line for a Cherry board of any type).

I've wanted something like this for a long time and till now no one was making it. Razer took a risk and put it on the market first.

I'd already considered modding my old nt52te with a mix of Cherry browns and blues since it's over 4 years old and is starting to show its wear and tear, and I quickly learned that given my resources it would cost me about as much as I paid for the Orbweaver (if not more) to do so.

The old n52te wasn't perfect by any means, but I did get every penny worth of enjoyment out of it. That's a fact.

I offered supporting material as to why "I" as a gamer do NOT feel like the Orbweaver's first run asking price was a "Rip Off" nor is it "Junk".
I'm not a 'competitive' gamer by any means. I suck at half the stuff I play, but it brings me joy and entertainment that I'm willing to pay for.

I have an Orbweaver sitting on my desk right now, and while it might not be something that fits everyone...it's certainly not JUNK, and the MSRP of $120 isn't terribly out of line in the first stage of this kind of product's life cycle.

I gave a number of reasons WHY that starting price is not terribly out of line. Not as a Razer lacky, but as someone who has first hand experience in working with small companies who carve out new markets, develop and mass produce items for smaller markets, and try to stay above water with very limited cash pools and human/intellectual resources at hand (relative to the much bigger companies that suddenly want a piece of the gaming market pie). They're not going to drop the price much until they know it's a solid product and has all the unforeseen production, supply, and software kinks knocked out of it. Also they're going to hold any advantage they might have in having the only product like it on the market for a short time. This isn't a paid Razer plug...it's a fact of life in branding, production, and international business.

Yes, I do have a lot to say about my recent upgrade in gaming gear.
I did get excited about trying one of these things out.
I do like it.
I do see some minor software/documentation issues that need fixing but I'm confident they will be fixed. Just like it is..it's already a massive step up for me compared to the n52te, which I happened to enjoy a great deal.

If all that is fake fanboy talk...so be it.
The folks who are interested in a Mechanical gaming pad will try one out and make up their minds on if and when to buy it, and at what price to take the plunge.
Edited by Credo1970 - 3/22/13 at 4:54am
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Np, I've never heard anyone talk so highly of any razor product, so a little back ground checking goes a long way. I would guess its either some lower corporate grunt or some 3rd party co that has its hand in the development of the products.

I would still like to try one, but the price is just way out there, and in my experience, using synapse across 3 different computers with 3 different OS's is true hell, I would consider the product worth checking out if it had its own separate drivers.

If you're talking about my posts, you're dead wrong on all counts but one.

I did lurk and do research in this forum for a while when I was 'shopping' for mechanical boards. I later joined AFTER my more recent Black Widow purchase to get into the Razer threads.

The OP's video review actually helped me decide to give the Orbweaver a try. I don't agree with everything he said now that I have one in my hands as well, but I did find MUCH good, and ALL HONEST information (his opinions were all quite fair and VALID) in his review that inspired me to grab one and give it a try now instead of waiting for a possible price drop.

If you find that unnatural or suspicious, then you've got much to learn about how people get excited when they're shopping and playing with new toys.

My experiences with the products and the company have been pretty good. I've even had some way past warranty issues that their Customer Service people helped me sort out in reasonable time with minimal compromise on my part. I did have to jump through a hoop or two, but it was clearly beyond the guy on the phone's control. In turn he also jumped through a few hoops to keep me happy as well. Maybe I just got lucky and the only good CS guy in the building answered my call...I dunno, but he bent over backwards to help me find a solution. I didn't find that any different from any other company or product I've ever owned. It certainly no worse than stuff I've purchased from companies like Logitech, Microsoft, and so on.

I've said what I like, and what I don't like about the stuff. I gave valid reasons WHY in detail. In the 'other' Razer thread I did advocate for some things Razer is trying to do with Synapse. I won't deny it for a second...the technology has a lot of potential for coming generations of gaming and gear if they can make it work and sell it to game developers and end users properly. Razer as a company is obviously trying to master some cutting edge philosophies in rapid prototyping. It can be risky, but it can also make the difference in them still being a company 10 years down the road when folks might not even be using keyboards and mice much anymore. There is a vision there that makes a LOT of sense if you take into account how game development is done, who out there is playing games and paying to play them, the growing influence and demand of collaboration and information sharing abilities, and the countless ways people interact with their machines and other people using them.

You might not agree, and may have had horrible experiences with Razer people and gear...and that's just fine to express it here however you like, but it has nothing to do with what I do for a living (school teacher), and I sure won't be making any cash or winning any friends for doing it.

Good day.
Edited by Credo1970 - 3/22/13 at 4:38am
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I have to wonder what razer is thinking by including MX blues in this device. It's pretty clear that MX borwns are the more preferred switches yet razer includes MX blues(meant for typing) in a device that is aimed 100% for gaming.
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I have to wonder what razer is thinking by including MX blues in this device. It's pretty clear that MX borwns are the more preferred switches yet razer includes MX blues(meant for typing) in a device that is aimed 100% for gaming.

As far as I can tell, MX Blues are just as popular as the Browns. They're also just as functional, minus being louder.
 
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I have to wonder what razer is thinking by including MX blues in this device. It's pretty clear that MX borwns are the more preferred switches yet razer includes MX blues(meant for typing) in a device that is aimed 100% for gaming.

I once got to participate in a user study for Xbox stuff in Redmond.
It was pretty interesting to say the least.

They allowed us to hang out and play game segments all day using all sorts of boxes and gizmos.

The games themselves were mostly generic in nature (no Trade Mark Characters) with simple objectives.
Sometimes they'd shift color-schemes and tints and ask what we preferred.

They had cameras and such on us, recorded it all, and would occasionally ask us questions.
With our permission they measured our age, height, weight, hand sizes, and the list goes on.
We were even invited to pick up different size and shape weights from standing, sitting, laying positions, and to yank on various types of cords and levers.

Sometimes they asked lots of questions, and sometimes they just observed and asked nothing.

In one example they had a line of like 20 Xbox prototypes with different power button types and designs.
"Please turn it on, wait 30 seconds, then turn it off."

I think they also measured our perception or 'estimate' of how long 30 seconds is.

They asked which we liked better and why.
Which we liked the least and why.

They crammed alot of observation into about 3 hours of touring.

I have no idea how Razer does its research, but I'd imagine they probably did something similar....or at least as much as they could afford. Investors like to have this kind of data at hand before they pour dollars into setting up a production and distribution line.

No 'research' is perfect...there's always the concern about where the control groups come from...how they were chosen, and if you got a good cross section..but I'm sure they try their best to get it right.

Of course I could be wrong...it might just boil down to something as simple as sheer economics/politics, "The company might be locked into a contract for the Blue switches for some reason...it might be all they can get in large numbers...or the price might be a little better for the blues." It could be because of exclusive contracts that other companies have with Cherry...or patent laws and legal agreements with competitors, and on and on. Who knows? Sometimes it's simply all about supply and demand....gotta use the parts you can get delivered on time for the best price.

I really like the Browns as well on my main keyboard. As I play with the Orbweaver a little more each day, I do find that there are alot of games I enjoy that do benefit from the blues...at least in my mind. For MMORPG PVE...I actually love the clicky. I could see how someone that plays a game like Assassin's Creed might dig the way blues can help confirm numbers of clicks and timing. Quite a few of the popular console ports depend on click sequences (I.E. two clicks to do this...one click to do that). Then again...when I play something more FPS like Classic Quake, where I'm mostly holding down key-combos (rather than rapid clicking)...I feel a hunger for the brown's slightly lighter touch and smoother tactile sensation.

I figure they'll eventually do a Stealth version with browns or reds. It'll just come a bit later.

If they really wanted to dominate and make lots of people happy, they could make the awsd cluster easy to pop out the switches somehow and swap as an end user smile.gif
Edited by Credo1970 - 3/22/13 at 5:50pm
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As far as I can tell, MX Blues are just as popular as the Browns. They're also just as functional, minus being louder.

Where did you get that idea from? Take overclock for example the blues are looked down upon for gaming, and this is pretty much the same across most respectable forums that understand Mechanical Keyboards.
Hence why most gaming specific devices by default come with MX red's. I would have glady purchased one of these's had the switches been either browns or blacks. My G13 keys are on there last legs.
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Where did you get that idea from? Take overclock for example the blues are looked down upon for gaming, and this is pretty much the same across most respectable forums that understand Mechanical Keyboards.
Hence why most gaming specific devices by default come with MX red's. I would have glady purchased one of these's had the switches been either browns or blacks. My G13 keys are on there last legs.

General reading. For every person I see that likes MX 'insert color", there is always a person that prefers another color. It's nearly like having a favorite color. I play CS:S, where blacks and reds are popular, but I still like blues over everything.
 
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Where did you get that idea from? Take overclock for example the blues are looked down upon for gaming, and this is pretty much the same across most respectable forums that understand Mechanical Keyboards.
Hence why most gaming specific devices by default come with MX red's. I would have glady purchased one of these's had the switches been either browns or blacks. My G13 keys are on there last legs.

Blues aren't looked down upon, some people just prefer other switches.

I don't think most gaming-specific keyboards come with reds. Thermaltake and Steelseries are almost entirely MX black (I think Steelseries recently brought one MX Red keyboard into their lineup), Razer is blues and browns, Coolermaster has a bit of everything (region dependent), Logitech uses browns. Corsair is the only company I can think of that uses primarily reds in their gaming keyboards.
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Blues aren't looked down upon, some people just prefer other switches.

I don't think most gaming-specific keyboards come with reds. Thermaltake and Steelseries are almost entirely MX black (I think Steelseries recently brought one MX Red keyboard into their lineup), Razer is blues and browns, Coolermaster has a bit of everything (region dependent), Logitech uses browns. Corsair is the only company I can think of that uses primarily reds in their gaming keyboards.

This, TBH I don't remember anyone ever saying reds until the k90 came out, must be either some insanely good switches, or more likely, if corsair does it that way it must be best.
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