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So I recently purchased (2) 500GB WD VRaptors during the newegg blackfriday sale and during the Xmas sale I purchased me (2) 250GB WD VRators spent like $300 total which is a steal! So now I'm all excited, but not sure what to do next..I was originally just gonna buy 1 of the 500 GB but couldn't resist the price and got another one..($120 savings each). Of course even with that savings after buying two I still felt like I was missing out on savings (That itch to buy more) but any more didn't fit the budget at the time...Xmas came around and I was still itching after seeing the transfer speeds of those drives compared to my 3 year old seagates and newegg did it again...but with the 250's, Soooo I got 2 more...

Now my original plan consisted of just 1 drive but now I have 4, So I was thinking I would Raid 0 the (2) 500GB drives and make a Ultra fast 1000 GB volume for just my games which currently have filled up a 750 GB HDD to the brink of explosion...The 750 GB drive is currently host to about 500+ GB in PC Games and another 200+ GB in ISO's for Emulators. Several of the PC games are heavily modded so one of the main reasons for the requirement of the speed of the drives is for High res Textures/LOD's Farther vision distance rendering ectt...Now my question here is when setting up Raid 0 in this situation what stripe size should I pick?

As for the 250 GB Drives I was also originally planning to get just 1 but I guess everything comes in pairs huh? So I was originally gonna replace my current 250GB drive with one of these 10K Drives. But I was thinking why not Raid 0 the 2 drives and make an even faster boot drive and separate the 2 drives into (2) 250 GB volumes. 1 Volume would be for the OS and the other would be for most likely programs that I want to be able to launch fast (Blender, Photoshop, Media Programs like that), I don't want to dedicate all 500 GB to just the OS drive that's for sure. Now would it be better to run the 2 drives separately or get the speed boost of the 2 drives together in Raid 0?

I keep very few of my documents on my OS Drive (mostly just freshly downloaded files or freshly written stuff) I keep most of it on my Media drive or Game Drive (all games go straight to the game drive) so if the OS gets corrupted I don't have to sweat it so much..I also have a 3TB backup I picked up on black Friday too that I am now using to backup my important stuff. I currently have all important OS files (Game saves, Program settings ect) media and gaming drives backed up on it. The 750 GB will most likely get retired to a backup drive as well.

What do you guys think I should do, How should I set this up? I will be using the Onboard raid controller from my Sig Rig Mobo, don't have funds currently to pickup a raid card and don't have the Mobo space either way..
     
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Soz bro could you shorten that? How many drives?

2 x 500

2 x 250 etc

TLDR redface.gif


You heard of SSDs? Photoshop? Blender etc? Not sure if srs. Mirror the drives that are the same size for failover, use them for storage. Get a SSD. Incremental backups to the 3TB external wouldn't be a bad idea either, schedule them.

Reinstall os? Make a disk image of your SSD every.....meh, it takes how long to reinstall from a USB3? 10...15 minutes?
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SSD's aren't worth it to me out of my price range for performance/Storage. Only reason I got these was because I got them for cheap. For the price I would pay for 1 512 GB SSD I got 1.5 TB of space at 10K RPM's You have to remember I'm coming from 3 year old drives. So I'm not used to things opening fast or if they do open the window quickly it takes a second before It can be interacted with...
     
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Now my question here is when setting up Raid 0 in this situation what stripe size should I pick?

I recommend 128k...but you can check out this thread & make your decision... http://www.overclock.net/t/702848/300gb-velociraptor-raid-0-stripe-size smile.gif
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SSD's aren't worth it to me out of my price range for performance/Storage. Only reason I got these was because I got them for cheap. For the price I would pay for 1 512 GB SSD I got 1.5 TB of space at 10K RPM's

For the price you paid, you could have gotten 8TB+ 7200RPM HDDs which perform about the same or better than 1.5TB 10K HDDs....
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I didn't want to do that to him redface.gif was trying to get him to get an SSD (you dont need 512 for the OS drive OP)...unless OP can take them back / swap em smile.gif
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As I stated earlier I'm not interested in spending money on a SSD performance/storage is to expensive and the reason I got (2) 500 GB's was because I need a place to store my games and I could raid them for more performance since I couldn't beat the price I figured might as well... a single 512 ssd wont do that job, 2 would but that is already twice of what I spent total for 4 drives, and I still don't even have a new OS drive, (which I've read mixed information about using for OS drives anyways, because of life expectancy's based off all the data going around on the OS drive)....I also was looking to upgrade my OS drive so I got 1 250gb and decided to grab one more in case I liked the performance of the 500 GB's in raid. If not I have other uses for it its not a big deal...

As for 8+ TB's I don't need that kind of space, So larger drives never even crossed my mind since I already had nearly 5 TB of space as it was not including the new drives, All I was thinking was performance and price. I'm not sure where you see drives that would outperform the Raptors in performance for the price I paid, I'm guessing your thinking about the Seagate 3TB Barracuda XT (3 Platter) drives but those still don't out perform the Raptors in anything but storage space, from what I've seen. Considering I don't need all that space and got 2 Raptors for the price of 1 of those and can raid them to be even faster I don't see the issue since I was after performance not storage in the first place.

Either way I'm not here to argue about how I spent my money or didn't spend it I'm here because I have questions on how to get the most performance of what I did spend my money on. Thank you drBlahMan for the info, do you have any suggestions on whether or not I should raid the OS drives or not I seemed to have read mixed opinions on the matter but haven't seen any real facts.

Also I'm curious in reference to the stripe size what is typically considered a large file? I know ISO's fall under the category, but what is the minimum size for a file to fall into the category?

EDIT** It takes me a lot longer to do reinstall's because I have a lot of programs I use for mod development and every time I reinstall I need to reconfigure them reinstall scripts, resources, reconfigure windows ect because not everything carries over with the settings backup or its just not worth it to hunt down where they hide the settings. I don't use any image files because the whole reason I am doing a reinstall is because I want a fresh install of everything to get rid of everything I don't need or use that I've installed over time...And there's just something about the spunkyness of a fresh install, that isnt cluttered with old drivers and registry entries that aren't always deleted...I could make an image of the fresh install but I never get a chance to fully install everything I want every time I reinstall so I don't even bother because I normally run out of time and then the whole install just ends up getting neglected because I want to use my computer not just go around reinstalling everything.
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Yeah, he's probably talking about the Seagate 7200.14 3TB's - they are crazy fast for 7200RPM, especially when nearly empty.

128K stripe is what I'd use. Current drives have enough sequential performance to handle a stripe that large just fine.

I hope to see some Velociraptor RAID-0 benchmarks. smile.gif
     
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For the price you paid, you could have gotten 8TB+ 7200RPM HDDs which perform about the same or better than 1.5TB 10K HDDs....
Seek speeds for the OS. Not only do the Raptors spin faster, the platters are physically smaller.
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