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Originally Posted by zinfinion View Post


LOL. Do you know if there are any Z vs Zx board shots, or are the boards identical? I could have sworn someone mentioned the Z would be using inferior caps than the Zx but at this point who knows.
Edit: Never mind. I found the [H] thread (so much cat fighting in there), which I had actually read a few weeks back. Looks like the person who posted the board pics confused the ZxR for the Zx which is why I was confused as well since they hadn't been corrected at the time I read it.
So to summarize:
Zx = Z + Audio Control Module (and it looks like they both use the same quality of caps)
ZxR = A totally different beast all together.

I ordered a Z on release. I got Nicheon Fine gold caps. There are mixed results both nicheon fine gold and gluxon.

 

Sadly, I wasn't pleased w/ my card and sent it back. Potentially faulty.

post #52 of 150
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post

I disagree. In games that don't use EAX or openal which is beyond dead these days Dolby headphone sounds better than cmss and THX, in my opinion.
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Anyone that has done a side by side comparison, dolby headphone isn't that great IMO. Better than CMSS-3D? That's pretty ridiculous, it's really not close during gaming. EAX / THX surround can also be used in anything to widen the sound stage, they don't require specific application support.

Apparently, you're offended at the STX comment. It's a nice card and it's great for music playback and content creation - the only real negative IMO is it's just not as good at positional audio. I also highly disagree with the dolby headphones comment, I don't know what your experience is but mine is that it just seems to add a ton of reverb with no real meaningful positional audio in games. I don't like it. As I said, the STX is a fine card but it isn't as good for gaming compared to an x-fi card - I think that's the concensus of what most users who have tried both think. In my experience the Z series are just as great (as the X-fi titanium hd) for positional audio, but I've only been using 5.1 for the past few days.

Anyway, I'm curious myself as to THS studio vs CMSS-3D with headphones, i'll give that a whirl sometime when I get around to it. As a side note, THS Trustudio surround is excellent but you must configure your card as 5.1 in windows control panel, otherwise you won't get the full surround effect.
Edited by xoleras - 1/5/13 at 10:53pm
post #53 of 150
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

I can't stop laughing at this statement. Anyone that has done a side by side comparison, dolby headphone is a joke. rolleyes.gif I'm guessing you haven't tried either.

You get way too defensive about the new hardware that you purchase. I've seen you do this in the past quite often too.

I owned a titanium hd before I bought my STX. Unlike the titanium HD I haven't had a single issue with the STX.

So yes, I have used both Dolby headphone, cmss3d, and THX tru-studio.

It sounds to me like you haven't given them a fair listen and are hearing what you want to hear.

IDK, dolby headphone is pretty popular here and on Headfi.

Are you going to talk up EAX that hasn't been used in years some more?
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post #54 of 150
Is this an upgrade over the stx ? I was thinking of the cambridge audio azur dacmagic + but is if this is better than the stx and close performing of that to the dacmagic, I might just get this and a standalone headphone amp or reciever.
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I just saw your edit.
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

Anyone that has done a side by side comparison, dolby headphone isn't that great IMO. Better than CMSS-3D? That's pretty ridiculous, it's really not close during gaming. EAX / THX surround can also be used in anything to widen the sound stage, they don't require specific application support.

You apparently don't understand how CMSS3d works with modern audio engines. That widening the soundstage option is the same as Dolby headphone's different room size options. It just takes a 5.1 source to emulate a surround environment. Oh, and the STX can take advantage of a 7.1 source.

Do you even have CMSS properly set up? You should be setting windows to 5.1 to make games put out surround channels. If not all that you'll get out of cmss is some added reverb.

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Anyway, I'm curious myself as to THS studio vs CMSS-3D with headphones, i'll give that a whirl sometime when I get around to it. As a side note, THS Trustudio surround is excellent but you must configure your card as 5.1 in windows control panel, otherwise you won't get the full surround effect.

If you really did have a titanium hd you could have done that already. Like I did. They are a little different. CMSS seems to have more reverb.

I don't play any games that actually use "open al" or eax so I can't comment on that.
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ZxR look like a card who can actually finally come close/match STX for music playback


Show me where the STX is proven to be better at music playback than the Titanium HD. I owned both, neither is superior to the other it boils down to preference/taste. Anyways STX vs Titanium HD has been beaten to death here on OCN.
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You get way too defensive about the new hardware that you purchase. I've seen you do this in the past quite often too.
I owned a titanium hd before I bought my STX. Unlike the titanium HD I haven't had a single issue with the STX.
So yes, I have used both Dolby headphone, cmss3d, and THX tru-studio.
It sounds to me like you haven't given them a fair listen and are hearing what you want to hear.
IDK, dolby headphone is pretty popular here and on Headfi.
Are you going to talk up EAX that hasn't been used in years some more?

It looks to me that we are all falling into the same old trap here again when comparing the two competing virtual 5.1 technologies. There has been much debate as to weather DH is Superior to CMSS. What I have gathered from not only owing both cards but reading the debates here and other forums as to which one is the superior tech, is that there is no way to declare one better than the other. It seems to me just like the whole STX vs HD for music playback it boils down the the individuals personal preference. Some people here swear by DH others by CMSS.

One thing I would like to mention is when I did extensively evaluate both, CMSS in certain games sounded superior to DH and in other games DH takes the win. Never have I consistently seen one beat the other.
Edited by Nightingale - 1/6/13 at 10:35am
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Show me where the STX is proven to be better at music playback than the Titanium HD. I owned both, neither is superior to the other it boils down to preference/taste. Anyways STX vs Titanium HD has been beaten to death here on OCN.

Better for my, and many other ears. But yea if you like Titanium more its ok.
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Is this an upgrade over the stx ? I

No, only for gaming....
Edited by psyside - 1/6/13 at 10:26am
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Better for my, and many other ears. But yea if you like Titanium more its ok.

Same can be said for the creative Card. I just take issue when people declare one superior as if it's a fact, when in reality it's totally subjective seeing as both cards are spec very similar.
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Looks nice but I would never buy Creative again because of their driver support/team. They are the worse.
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