Originally Posted by mark_thaddeus
Fair enough, but what I heard in this VIDEO
(2:38 onwards if you want to skip things) is Gabe saying the same voltage (selective hearing I guess) but completely missed out him saying pushing a button for 4.6 Ghz. I still think that should be the closest to a test (of course it would have been perfect if all chips had the same voltage running through all chips) people at OCN would say is closest to being perfect compared to the other tests so far.
I do believe the results you gave for the H220 and the other AIO units it's just that there are more variables different versus the CES test, that's why I gave that comment.
Gabe only said some things because I asked the right questions, so in that video there is likely missing info because some things just weren't asked. I have watched live manufacturer demos for the past four years - I saw bulldozer before it launched in Austin, Radeon before it launched in LA, and most all the Ivy Bridge stuff before it was released. I am no journalist, just an enthusiast and this is my hobby, but I have watched journalists around me and the good ones ask the right questions. So when they said everything was running at the same settings, naturally I asked how they made the settings knowing that the auto oc settings were based off VID and would introduce minor differences. I didn't comment further, because it was minor, and a manufacturer demo is just that. It gives you an idea about how it works, but they aren't going to run a demo if they don't look good in it. Basically there are a lot of dog and pony shows so you become a bit jaded having seen enough of them and recognizing how common BS is.
That said, swiftech is a rare bird. Like Overclockers.com, and few others like hardocp and anandtech, they have been around for over a decade. We started in this enthusiast thing in 1998. Their demo was well setup, it gives a fair impression of how their equipment works, and generally they are more trustworthy of a company than some others who will feed a lot more marketing garbage. Gabe is one of us though.
Anyways... Your comment was a good one. You should always read with a healthy bit of skepticism. The OCF review wasn't perfect, but it does reflect closely to how this thing will perform. It is also independent, not from the manufacturer. The writer is an enthusiast and a member of the community. Not paid, not working in an office or a lab... Just a guy like us, who has done a lot of reviews over the years as a hobby. All the OC reviews are enthusiast, not professional.
By the way, is martin still doing testing? It was my understanding that he had unretired, but then I thought he went back into taking a break. His work and skinnees is the only water cooling setups and testing that really stands out. (Read link now, guess he's in action. Cool)