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even if they make this list 5 times bigger between now and when the thing comes out, I don't see who is going to buy one of these aside from people obsessed with valve or console owners who want to be able to play source games + some indie games.
Unless valve is looking to drop wads of cash the size of my house getting AAA titles on here I just don't see it.

 

The only reason we don't have a large number of Linux titles readily available, is only because the gaming installed base wasn't large.

 

This could shift that focus.

 

Like wise, you already own a gaming PC and windows. You're not Valve's target.

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Valve is also working on some sort of virtual reality headset or something, I'm thinking they may release this with the console, or more likely release it with HL3 in a few years for the console. That's what I'm hoping at least thumb.gif
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pretty sure he meant since they are becoming h/w manufacturers and making a 'console' albeit probably a pretty cool one since it runs linux instead of winblows.

I'm going to love the games list on launch:

Source games

a few others

*crickets chirping*

The total amount of games on Steam for Linux right now (Not even including the ones that could be on it due to already having Linux versions) is more than any consoles launch lineup, actually...And if Valve convince a few AAA developers to port games to it? They have the sales figures on Steam, they know what to look at getting ported.
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http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Metascore&sort_order=DESC&category1=998&os=linux

Plenty of good games on that list. Like wise, plenty of other solid linux based titles out there not available on Steam. 

even if they make this list 5 times bigger between now and when the thing comes out, I don't see who is going to buy one of these aside from people obsessed with valve or console owners who want to be able to play source games + some indie games.

Unless valve is looking to drop wads of cash the size of my house getting AAA titles on here I just don't see it.

Lets say that Valve works with the Wine team to get some better versions of Wine going, that's an easy way to port games across (EA already does this for their Mac games iirc) which would give them the AAA games they may need...Now lets say they port Skyrim, that right there gives Console gamers a reason to go to it, some have upgraded their PCs to get Skyrim with mods...If the Steambox allowed you to do that then I can see a lot of console gamers eventually moving towards it.
    
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That is fantastic they are using Linux instead of cruddy, insecure Microsoft OS.

Well done Valve. thumb.gif
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The only reason we don't have a large number of Linux titles readily available, is only because the gaming installed base wasn't large.

Doesn't that sort of leave us in sort of a catch 22 situation? It's hard to sell because of the lack of support and the lack of support makes it hard to sell.

In other words, how is the title list going to get bigger if the userbase doesn't, and how does the userbase get bigger if the title list doesn't?

I'm assuming valve knows what they're doing, but it still seems like a pretty huge task to me. My guess is they already have one or a few (or a lot, who knows) publishers on board to publish some heavy hitters on the thing.

I hope it works out, because competition in both the console and OS space simultaneously is pretty great thumb.gif
    
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Anything that helps towards making it a standard to release games onto linux is a good thing in my books.
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Frustrating lack of innovation...

Lol, good luck Valve... Good luck.
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Finally, a console that does more good than harm to PC gamers biggrin.gif

Truthfully nothing good can come of this. Valve risks fracturing the PC community and increasing development costs for our platform. For all we know, they may destroy PC gaming. Time will tell.
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Doesn't that sort of leave us in sort of a catch 22 situation? It's hard to sell because of the lack of support and the lack of support makes it hard to sell.
In other words, how is the title list going to get bigger if the userbase doesn't, and how does the userbase get bigger if the title list doesn't?
I'm assuming valve knows what they're doing, but it still seems like a pretty huge task to me. My guess is they already have one or a few (or a lot, who knows) publishers on board to publish some heavy hitters on the thing.:

People before have thought that it would take one really big title to get the ball rolling on gaming in Linux. That didn't happen though. It'll take more than just interest in Linux to get the ball rolling, the shift will happen when Linux is all-around better for the average gamer.

I think Valve can do this. They're putting in a ton of talent, time, and money into developing their own console, improving Linux for games, and putting in the work to make gaming on Linux viable for more people. The key thing is that they need to do this. Gabe realized a while ago that Steam can't stay the #1 game platform on PC forever, and that innovation is necessary for the company to survive. That means bringing games to more people (gain in users), via the living room, and at the same time avoiding formidable competition (loss of users) from Microsoft's built-in store.

And don't say that Microsoft's built-in store isn't a threat, just look at the numbers on how many people use Bing on desktop vs. on mobile. There's an incredible difference, on desktop it's much more substantial. That's because most people use Windows, most Windows users use the default browser, IE, and most IE users use the default search engine, Bing. Bing is pretty much the same as Steam, so if Microsoft just imitates Steam, and then makes their store the default, Steam loses a lot of users.

So anyways, back to your original question. Yes, it is incredibly difficult to make gaming on Linux more popular, but I think that since Valve's plans, and consequently their survival as a company, make it a do-or-die situation, they're gonna do it thumb.gif

Gabe's more than just one step ahead of everybody else biggrin.gif
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Are there any hardware specs out yet? What kind of games is this thing going to run? Only indies and low-end games?
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