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Really curious about the hardware and price point they'll choose... i'd be all over it if it was $99 like the new Wii, but of course would be willing to accept it won't max Crysis tongue.gif (price I believe is still the main thing preventing PC gaming for the masses, of course with steam sales and indie bundles i've probably spent less than 1/10th I could have for the same amount of console games, but some people just think about the initial investment when talking about PC vs Console).
 

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i would definitely like to see one in person and try it out.
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Really curious about the hardware and price point they'll choose... i'd be all over it if it was $99 like the new Wii, but of course would be willing to accept it won't max Crysis tongue.gif (price I believe is still the main thing preventing PC gaming for the masses, of course with steam sales and indie bundles i've probably spent less than 1/10th I could have for the same amount of console games, but some people just think about the initial investment when talking about PC vs Console).

I think the most sensible price point to aim for is approx ~350$. You can have reasonably decent hardware (by the console standard) which is capable of driving source engine at max settings at 30+ fps at 1920x1080 as long as you limit the AA to reasonable levels. Something on the lines of ~3 GHz dualcore, 4 to 8 GB of RAM, a 6770 or 7770 GFx card, perhaps even 6850 or 6870 if they get a good bulk deal. Approx 500 GB HDD. I was able to build something like that for approx that budget a little while ago and that was with 20% VAT.
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Theory: Valve releases both a micro-ATX or ITX based Steam Box "console," but also releases the "Steamix" (Linux based OS distro). That way you can buy the all-in-one hardware package, or just use the "Steamix" OS on your existing setup. I would also assume the Steam Box controller would easily work with a PC, so you could buy that separately as well. Just a thought...
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http://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Metascore&sort_order=DESC&category1=998&os=linux

Plenty of good games on that list. Like wise, plenty of other solid linux based titles out there not available on Steam. 

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Man you nay sayers are just short sighted. The Linux client is still a beta and Valve just finally released it last month after over 2 years of talking about it. I guess you just expect to have every single game maker port their games in one day? I would have pitied you if you had been around in the early days of gaming.

I just don't get why people are so hostile to the idea of Linux for gaming? Is it because you paid money for Windows and fear people will be able to have access to the same games without the Windows tax? What is it?
     
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Man you nay sayers are just short sighted. The Linux client is still a beta and Valve just finally released it last month after over 2 years of talking about it. I guess you just expect to have every single game maker port their games in one day?

I am hoping Source 2 will natively support Linux. That way any dev using it could basicaly hit Export -> Windows, then Export -> Linux and they then have a larger pool of potential customers. As the the ease of making profitable AAA games for Linux allows more high calibur and mainstream games to be avaliable on Linux, inevitably some gamers will switch over. Also, some Linux users will buy the games as well. Once the playing feild is essentialy leveled this way, capitalist principles of supply and demand take over.
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Truthfully nothing good can come of this. Valve risks fracturing the PC community and increasing development costs for our platform. For all we know, they may destroy PC gaming. Time will tell.
Unfounded claims by someone with a poor understanding of the importance APIs play in all of this. You should be demoted.

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If the Steambox is going to kill anything, it's most likely going to be DirectX. Every major platform except the Xbox uses or at least supports OpenGL in some form. This could actually make OpenGL the defacto standard. Hell, from what I've read, the only reason anyone used DirectX in the first place was because Microsoft threatened to remove support for OpenGL in Windows to scare devs into using it. Steambox could reverse the effect that caused. It would become more cost effective to develop for Steambox since they get a bonus Linux release as well, instead of having to code for PS3(4) and then basically rewrite the game for Xbox 360(720?). Windows still supports OpenGL, too. Obviously there's more to coding a game for a particular platform than the graphical API, but this could spell the beginning of the end for DirectX. This could potentially bite into the game market of the Xbox with its closed-source proprietary 3rd party API. But then again, maybe not. The Xbox is the most popular of the consoles, and that counts for a lot.
This. Which equates to better ports all around.
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Good luck Valve, you're gonna need it. Sun don't shine where you're goin'...
Valve has so much money, they can take gambles on things like this without flinching. I don't think they need luck, they may have a profitable niche product. I can see this doing fairly well.
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