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While I'm late to this article I'd like to make everyone aware of the research of Professor Duesberg in regards to AIDS and the claims they make in the article:

http://youtu.be/fELMm5mAeXU
http://youtu.be/pB8g0b-FkW0

Enjoy and may the truth set you free.
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We're going to need Milla Jovovich on this one
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post #113 of 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

While I'm late to this article I'd like to make everyone aware of the research of Professor Duesberg in regards to AIDS and the claims they make in the article:

http://youtu.be/fELMm5mAeXU
http://youtu.be/pB8g0b-FkW0

Enjoy and may the truth set you free.

Basically the entirety of the HIV research community disagrees with Dr. Duesenberg's position on HIV transmission.

May reasonableness set you free.
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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

While I'm late to this article I'd like to make everyone aware of the research of Professor Duesberg in regards to AIDS and the claims they make in the article:

http://youtu.be/fELMm5mAeXU
http://youtu.be/pB8g0b-FkW0

Enjoy and may the truth set you free.

Dude's a lunatic and that second video is absolute crap. No citations and illogical reasoning.

We know surface protein structures and their binding specificity, so we know that they specifically bind to t-cells. We know about the lytic/lysogenic cycle and how those gene products are controlled. We know how latency works. We know the mutation rate of HIV's genes. You can't keep up on antibody production when you're dealing with a 10^-5 mutation rate. It's changing far too fast for your body, which is constantly making new antibodies, to deal with it, let alone commercial production of a vaccine unless a more conserved region has been found.
Edited by aroc91 - 1/10/13 at 10:50am
    
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Originally Posted by Digikid View Post

If this really works then that is fantastic.

But I have to be truthful here.....what does this cure "cause"? Sooner or later they would have to have side effects.

I agree...this is amazing that they found a cure. I hope this is inexpensive..
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oh noe, early stages of the T-Virus

Beat me to it.
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If you think about it we have a cure or treatment for almost everything these days yet we are still stumped on cancer....I bet they have a cure but if it was released the healthcare system would stop making money. The healthcare system is a business at the end of the day right?!
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If you think about it we have a cure or treatment for almost everything these days yet we are still stumped on cancer....I bet they have a cure but if it was released the healthcare system would stop making money. The healthcare system is a business at the end of the day right?!

"Cancer" isn't one monolithic condition, it's a huge family of conditions with hundreds or thousands of members, each of which has different symptoms, degrees of severity, and susceptibility to different kinds of treatment. Even if two women both have, say, breast cancer that arises out of the same kind of cell type, the effects can be markedly different based on the kind of mutation that caused the cell to become cancerous in the first place.

Creating broad-spectrum antibiotics is easy. There are certain characteristics that all bacteria share that the antibiotics can exploit. There are comparatively fewer common characteristics between, for example, a cancerous glial cell and a cancerous stomach cell.

And this whole "they would stop making money, ergo they're withholding a cure" argument is ridiculous and needs to be stopped. There is a huge market available for someone if they were hypothetically to synthesize a silver bullet, one that would allow them a dominant market position over all competitors for several years thanks to long-lasting patents. Broad-spectrum antibiotics didn't cause the industry to crash when they were first synthesized. A hypothetical silver bullet for cancer wouldn't either, largely because scientists would always be on the lookout for ways to further refine it (eliminating side-effects of the original formulation of the silver bullet, increasing its availability and absorption with the body, so forth.)
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If you think about it we have a cure or treatment for almost everything these days yet we are still stumped on cancer....I bet they have a cure but if it was released the healthcare system would stop making money. The healthcare system is a business at the end of the day right?!

There are treatments for cancer. There are plenty of other diseases that have treatments but no cure, so why would you single out cancer for your little conspiracy theory? It's not at all unique in that aspect.
    
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