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the cure to cancer is simple, make the tobacco companies stop filling their cigarettes with 2000+ harmful chemicals that cause most cancer problems in the first place.

then we can easily treat the lower number of genepool cancer cases, which will put less of a burden on the health system around the world, period.
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the cure to cancer is simple, make the tobacco companies stop filling their cigarettes with 2000+ harmful chemicals that cause most cancer problems in the first place.

then we can easily treat the lower number of genepool cancer cases, which will put less of a burden on the health system around the world, period.

As if that would happen, those cancer sticks make so much money. It's rediculous.
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As if that would happen, those cancer sticks make so much money. It's rediculous.

make them as addictive as they are I don't care, just take the "tar" and stuff out of them that isn't needed, nicotine causes addiction, and its naturally in tobacco, native indian tribes have smoked tobacco for hundred of years with no ill effects because of not using chemicals, if only the companies would learn from them.
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When exactly was it revealed that climate change was a sham? I don't think you understand how science works. If a phenomenon is accepted by the majority of experts in the field, and you come up with a differing argument, the burden of proof is on you, not them. It's you that has to come up with data indicating that your explanation is correct and theirs is not. You can't say "My idea is right until you find a counterproof."
I'd actually disagree with you there. Viruses can and do mutate extremely rapidly; they have unfaithful polymerases that replicate their genetic material with a very high error rate (relatively speaking). When you combine that with the fact that viruses replicate in extremely high numbers, you end up with a huge number of virus particles that explore a vast part of the DNA sequence space that's available to them. Most of the mutations are deleterious and result in non-functional viruses, and almost any mutation will result in compromising some previous function, which is why you don't see a huge number of mutants in nature. But they are being formed in your cells when the viruses replicate.

I never said viruses don't mutate, malaria proves how fast they mutate. I didn't make myself clear, I believe. I do believe AIDS exists, because there are many forms of autoimmune disorders, whether caused by toxins, pollutants or other lethal substances. But I do not believe HIV causes AIDS.

Here is another article on HIV/AIDS:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027890_AIDS_test_HIV.html
http://theperthgroup.com/whatargued.html

Credentials of the Perth Group:
http://theperthgroup.com/aboutpg.html

The medical sciences are in a great extent pseudo science and quackery. Anti-depressants and mind altering drugs are nothing but a scam and extremely dangerous (as attested by all the mass shootings in which the perpetrators have all been on some form of mind altering drugs).

Let me give you an example:
Here in China it is believed that thrush can be entirely eliminated if, after treatment, people refrain from sex for a three month period. This belief is perpetrated by doctors who are nothing more than quacks, barely qualified to prescribe aspirin. Yet these doctors will refuse to accept that thrush is a fungal infection that can't be eliminated once and for all, not in the least because they will continue to milk patients, through the sale of ineffective and highly toxic antibiotics.

A while ago I read an article by the creators of the original AIDS tests who said that these tests are highly unreliable and that they, in effect, can't be relied upon for sound medical advice. Then there's the entire p24 band debacle, that caused thousands of people to be misdiagnosed, but who were never retested when newer and so called better tests were made available.

Bones was right when he said we live in the dark ages of medicine.

What I have posted may be seen as off-topic but I just wanted it to be clear that HIV can't be cured, considering its very existence and what it does are uncertain and the Perth Group prove this exact point.
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make them as addictive as they are I don't care, just take the "tar" and stuff out of them that isn't needed, nicotine causes addiction, and its naturally in tobacco, native indian tribes have smoked tobacco for hundred of years with no ill effects because of not using chemicals, if only the companies would learn from them.

Cigarettes aren't pysically addictive, they are only mentally addictive. In other words, it's nothing more than placebo and as long as people believe they will calm down when they smoke a cigarette they will keep smoking them. This is why there are no withdrawal symptoms when smokers quit, unlike alcoholism in which drinkers show severe reactions to them being denied alcohol. Both my parents quit smoking and never had a problem after, bar a little anxiety.
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I highly doubt this will become available, at least not anytime soon. A course of cancer treatment costs over $100k, most patients pay tens of thousands of dollars per month, those pharmaceutical companies make billions out of those drugs and noone is trying to cure it, if anything they want to prolong the treatment time so they can sell more drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if governments ban those treatments with excuses like "it's too risky, side effects are not acceptable" etc since they get bribed a ton of $$$.
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America's National Institutes of Health predict that spending on all cancer treatment will rise from $125 billion last year to at least $158 billion in 2020. If drugs become pricier, as seems likely, that bill could rise to $207 billion.
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When added to standard cancer treatments, both drugs improve the median survival time of patients by a minuscule 1.4 months.
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Stem cell research is so important, no matter what anyone says about it.

This, were it not for religion our society would be so much more progressed than it is today.

Mods, edit this post if needed. I don't feel it is objectionable as I'm just stating a fact.
    
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I highly doubt this will become available, at least not anytime soon. A course of cancer treatment costs over $100k, most patients pay tens of thousands of dollars per month, those pharmaceutical companies make billions out of those drugs and noone is trying to cure it, if anything they want to prolong the treatment time so they can sell more drugs. I wouldn't be surprised if governments ban those treatments with excuses like "it's too risky, side effects are not acceptable" etc since they get bribed a ton of $$$.

It's evil what those drug companies do, profiteering from death, sickness and desperation.
    
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make them as addictive as they are I don't care, just take the "tar" and stuff out of them that isn't needed, nicotine causes addiction, and its naturally in tobacco, native indian tribes have smoked tobacco for hundred of years with no ill effects because of not using chemicals, if only the companies would learn from them.

Yeah hmm no.
The nicotine is bonded within the tar. Cancer can take a long time to develop. With the average pre colombian life expectancy at 25-30 and the estimated bronze age expectancy at 26. They might has well smoked unfiltered cigarettes made from offroad tyres and worn classy asbestos suits without ill effects.
More nicotine, more tar.
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Assumption added chemicals are inherently bad = Chemophobia
Chemofobia = Botulism
Edited by Huzzbutt - 1/14/13 at 3:15am
 
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Cigarettes aren't pysically addictive, they are only mentally addictive. In other words, it's nothing more than placebo and as long as people believe they will calm down when they smoke a cigarette they will keep smoking them. This is why there are no withdrawal symptoms when smokers quit, unlike alcoholism in which drinkers show severe reactions to them being denied alcohol. Both my parents quit smoking and never had a problem after, bar a little anxiety.

lolwut?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_addiction#Dependence_and_withdrawal
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Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing the levels of dopamine within the reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown to be more addictive than cocaine and heroin...

But yeah, sure, nothing physical involved there rolleyes.gif
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This, were it not for religion our society would be so much more progressed than it is today.
Mods, edit this post if needed. I don't feel it is objectionable as I'm just stating a fact.

HAH! This thread should have been locked a long time ago, selective moderating at its best wink.gif
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Yeah hmm no.
The nicotine is bonded within the tar. Cancer can take a long time to develop. With the average pre colombian life expectancy at 25-30 and the estimated bronze age expectancy at 26. They might has well smoked unfiltered cigarettes made from offroad tyres and worn classy asbestos suits without ill effects.
More nicotine, more tar.
edit:
Assumption added chemicals are inherently bad = Chemophobia
Chemofobia = Botulism

Most chemicals are absolutely terrible for the human body. It's not an assumption, it's a fact.
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