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It's definitely the thermal paste pad. The first time I took it apart I took a peek and found that they used a pad instead, and a low quality one at that. It deteriorated in no time. At this point I don't care enough about the laptop because the damage is done. Temps sit around 80C under load and the GPU seems to have already been cooked, so I generally avoid using the thing.
Thermal pads on a supposed "high performance gaming laptop?" Laughable.
Never again, Asus.

Dang sorry to hear that man, I mean thermal paste (good stuff) is about 6 dollars, If the GPU isn't showing any problems until it gets warm, it might not be cooked, more vulnerable to heat yes, but it might be solvable if you ever want to give it a try. Funny in my g75 I found masking tape holding things down, and the rubber feet are falling out already. This is why I'm never anything from them again.
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I have owned two Sager Notebooks in the past 8 years. I guarantee you that the performance of their notebooks in unmatched to that of other brands. They have been around for a long time now and are fairly credible.

Yeah, Dell's takeover of Alienware has only managed to surpass them in the "cooling-capability" region. tongue.gif Quality and overall performance goes in favor to Sager/Clevo well in everything else...with cooling abilities juuust behind. tongue.gif
     
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Thermal pads on a supposed "high performance gaming laptop?" Laughable.
Never again, Asus.

Thermal pads? For my Asus N61Jq laptop, they used thermal paste, but also stuck in a small brownish-orange semi-transparent sheet between the thermal paste and the CPU, completely defeating the purpose of the thermal paste. The sheet looked like the protective material used on laptop monitor and keyboard connection cables.

Even replacing the thermal paste didn't prevent the laptop from reaching high 80 C when gaming (and burning my fingers), so I had to take off the bottom panel and add in a laptop cooler to bring it down to high 60 C.

Well, at least the ATi Mobility 5730 GPU OCs quite nicely, and I don't care because I got the laptop for my birthday...
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Thermal pads? For my Asus N61Jq laptop, they used thermal paste, but also stuck in a small brownish-orange semi-transparent sheet between the thermal paste and the CPU, completely defeating the purpose of the thermal paste. The sheet looked like the protective material used on laptop monitor and keyboard connection cables.

That is a worthy facepalm moment. biggrin.gif
     
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Alright, you guys are getting me convinced about the Sagers, but the only model I'll consider is the NP9370 just because imo it's the only Sager model that actually looks good .(http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9370-clevo-p370em-p-4896.html)
And the only reason I'm taking looks so seriously (performance is 1st priority of course) is because it's a lot of freggin money. You don't buy an expensive sports car just because it goes fast, you buy one also because it stands out from the rest. Honestly, I think my HP dv6 looks 10x better than a lot of the Sager models. That's just my opinion, if you disagree, you disagree.

Now, back to the main topic, here's what I put together from XoticPC:
- Sager NP9370
- NO OPERATING SYSTEM (I have my ways--I'm sure you know what I mean)
- Intel i7-3630QM (default)
- AMD Radeon HD 7970M (default)
- 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (downgrade from 8GB 1600MHz--save $35)
- 750GB 7200RPM HDD (default)
- 6x Blu-Ray Player (I really need a blu-ray player since I do video encodings)

TOTAL: $1568.50 (including shipping and 3% discount)

So what do you think?
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That was the model I was thinking about before i decided to go with a desktop. FYI the laptop has MXM slots (Removable GPU chips) Supports SLI with mobile chips, and the warranty doesn't void if you open it up. It's a very flexible platform and is just about the closest thing to a desktop you can get in a laptop. It's a little on the large side, but with the performance it outputs and DIY options, it's worth it in my opinion. thumb.gif
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That was the model I was thinking about before i decided to go with a desktop. FYI the laptop has MXM slots (Removable GPU chips) Supports SLI with mobile chips, and the warranty doesn't void if you open it up. It's a very flexible platform and is just about the closest thing to a desktop you can get in a laptop. It's a little on the large side, but with the performance it outputs and DIY options, it's worth it in my opinion. thumb.gif

If I add another GPU in the future will I need add another heatsink or something? Or is it ready to go?
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I'm assuming it already has heatsinks for dual GPUs.

Regarding the sports car comparison, there are some laptops that appear to be too attention-attracting, in a bad way. I'd prefer a conservative design rather than Alienware's frilly design.
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The sager has one heat-sink installed, if you order with one GPU from the reseller. You can however ask a sager reseller or sager themselves for the heat-sink kit (fan, heat sink, screws, connectors) to install your second GPU yourself at a later date. Just like any dual GPU configuration the GPUs have to be the same to make it work.
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The sager has one heat-sink installed, if you order with one GPU from the reseller. You can however ask a sager reseller or sager themselves for the heat-sink kit (fan, heat sink, screws, connectors) to install your second GPU yourself at a later date. Just like any dual GPU configuration the GPUs have to be the same to make it work.

Great answer, thx. Although a second 7970m GPU is upwards of $500 so I'll probably get one when I see a loss in fps over time.
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