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You will only get about max 2 hours if you crank everything down or less. Also don't believe that you can play current games on battery. All desktop replacement battery's are pathetic.
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Originally Posted by sensuji View Post

You know what I mean. Hell, 2 textbooks weigh 10 lbs, I think a 8.6 lb laptop won't be a huge problem taking to college and back. Now since the brick is that big, it wont fit in a freggin laptop bag is what I'm saying. mad.gif
And If I choose to not take the brick, I would have about...what? 2.5-3 hrs of battery life (discrete graphics disabled, min brightness).
Of course at home, I could care less what size the brick is.

You could use a 120W or 180W adapter while on the move, just remember to not turn on the discrete GPUs.
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Originally Posted by Skilletis View Post

I love how people complain about carrying 9 pound laptop, when a textbook can weigh upwards of 20 pounds each. I think relatively, the laptop is much lighter in comparison.. rolleyes.gif

It also depends on how large the laptop is. A 17" is more cumbersome and harder to transport than a 15" laptop (and a bigger issue when you're restricted to small desks), even if both laptops have the same weight. My sister has a 5 lb 14" laptop, and I find it easier to transport compared to my 17" laptop that's only about 1 lb heavier.
Edited by A Bad Day - 1/9/13 at 3:20pm
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I love how people complain about carrying 9 pound laptop, when a textbook can weigh upwards of 20 pounds each. I think relatively, the laptop is much lighter in comparison.. rolleyes.gif

Thank you. biggrin.gif

Just how big is the difference between a 7970m and a 670mx exactly? I know the 7970m scores higher on all the benchmarks, but I'm not very literate with the 3D marks and Vantages. An answer in FPS would be very appreciated smile.gif I know notebookcheck has these numbers, but one source won't make the cut.
Mostly in semi-new to new games, i.e. Crisis 2, Farcry 3, Skyrim, etc.
Edited by sensuji - 1/9/13 at 10:05pm
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You're confused, the ASUS has two sinks, the MSI only has one. I overclock my GTX670M and it doesn't go over 85C. Just go with the 670MX, you will like it and you just need a BIOS update to swap the Graphics Cards if you would like.
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Thank you. biggrin.gif

Just how big is the difference between a 7970m and a 670mx exactly? I know the 7970m scores higher on all the benchmarks, but I'm not very literate with the 3D marks and Vantages. An answer in FPS would be very appreciated smile.gif I know notebookcheck has these numbers, but one source won't make the cut.

Mostly in semi-new to new games, i.e. Crisis 2, Farcry 3, Skyrim, etc.

The 7970M is around 80% faster in every game and benchmark tested. I'd go for that if you wanted to game for any length of time.
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You're confused, the ASUS has two sinks, the MSI only has one. I overclock my GTX670M and it doesn't go over 85C. Just go with the 670MX, you will like it and you just need a BIOS update to swap the Graphics Cards if you would like.

You don't need a bios update to change the GPUs. You just swap and go. Clevo is good like that. tongue.gif Also, the 670MX isn't that fast in all honesty. It's like a lower power 675M. tongue.gif
     
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http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-670mx/specifications

The memory bandwidth on the GTX 670MX is attrocious. 67Gbps. You won't get any AA on that ever. Even the GTX 675m has more: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-675m/specifications it has 96Gbps.

The GTX 675MX has 115Gbps Memory bandwidth so you might get some AA on it depending on the game. (GTX 680M has the same as this card but the GTX 680M has 1344 Shaders opposed to 960 for the 675MX.)




The GTX 670MX will struggle hard at high resolutions with AA.
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The 7970M is around 80% faster in every game and benchmark tested. I'd go for that if you wanted to game for any length of time.
You don't need a bios update to change the GPUs. You just swap and go. Clevo is good like that. tongue.gif Also, the 670MX isn't that fast in all honesty. It's like a lower power 675M. tongue.gif
80%?? That much?! Forget the Geforce then, the 7970m is definitely worth the extra cash.
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http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-670mx/specifications

The memory bandwidth on the GTX 670MX is attrocious. 67Gbps. You won't get any AA on that ever. Even the GTX 675m has more: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-675m/specifications it has 96Gbps.

The GTX 675MX has 115Gbps Memory bandwidth so you might get some AA on it depending on the game. (GTX 680M has the same as this card but the GTX 680M has 1344 Shaders opposed to 960 for the 675MX.)




The GTX 670MX will struggle hard at high resolutions with AA.
Great, the only time I play games with AA is on my desktop, which I haven't touched for a year now since my bro uses it.

Alright then guys I'll most likely get that Sager with the 7970m unless something new comes out, but it looks like the nVidia 700 series won't be here for a while, and I really don't care for a 15% performance boost with the Haswells. And the new AMD 8000m series doesn't look too great.
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Here's a review on the 7970m compared to other Nivida solutions: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xotic-pc-sager-np9150-radeon-hd-7970m,3294-10.html

That was also before AMD fixed the Enduro bug, which was causing a bottleneck to the GPU.
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Here's a review on the 7970m compared to other Nivida solutions: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xotic-pc-sager-np9150-radeon-hd-7970m,3294-10.html

That was also before AMD fixed the Enduro bug, which was causing a bottleneck to the GPU.

I don't know...it seems a little exaggerated. Although they did use an Intel Extreme processor. But still, 50%+ performance boost over the 675MX? That seems a little too high.
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The problem with comparing the 670 to the 7970, is that their in different leagues. I consider the true competitor to the 7970 is the 680M, but it's easily said, it's way more expensive. I personally think Nvidea dropped the ball when it's comes to Mobile GPUs, as it seems either their product is too expensive to the market or are completely substandard to it's competitor (ATI). However! Nvidea SLI has been proven to be far superior to ATI's Crossfire on the mobile market: mainly due to driver problems. I personally hate the 670m (I own a laptop with one) and almost feel ripped off by it's price/performance ratio. Don't get me wrong, it's an "okay" chip and can handle most games alright. But it's marketed as a "Performance Chip" which just feels wrong. To clarify the "80% performance increase" is a dramatic overstatement. 7970 is defiantly better, but defiantly not by a full 80%. I'm hoping either the 680m's come down in price, or ATI fixes their buggy software for mobile gaming.
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