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Failed Alienware now with BeastModeON - mATX watercooled build.

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Alright, so a few of you may have seen my rage at alienware after I found out I paid a premium for fujitsu ram and a crappy alienware branded motherboard and a dell branded PSU.

Well it is time to get my old parts out and finish the upgrades I started.

I bought the computer with a gtx 580 which I gave to a friend recently because he was desperate to upgrade his PC and have since bought 2 Asus gtx 690's both 4gb cards.

Then, knowing that I can't actually use the standard 875 watt power supply for these or the stock cooling because the mATX board only has two PCI slots, I started my first ever watercooled rig.

A more detailed post will come this afternoon after gym biggrin.gif but so far, basic overview of parts going in will be this.

Asus rampage IV mATX board (in the mail)
Trident X 32gb ram rated to 2400 - aim is to overclock to the best limit with advice (in the mail)
Current 3930k intel I7 6 core processor
Dual Asus GTX 690's (already here and one has heatkiller watercooler block installed already)
Corsair AX1200i power supply (subject to change because first one arrived dead and another poster here scared me over them)

SSD drive
1TB
Blu ray drive

and the case will still be the alienware case after they ripped me the hell off. Just because it is so pretty still and if for some reason it fails, probably the Predator case!

More details to come and a but load of photos tonight. Thanks for any advice, other than a new case and bigger motherboard, any changes are welcome.
post #2 of 63
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Originally Posted by JoshMck View Post

Alright, so a few of you may have seen my rage at alienware after I found out I paid a premium for fujitsu ram and a crappy alienware branded motherboard and a dell branded PSU.
Well it is time to get my old parts out and finish the upgrades I started.
I bought the computer with a gtx 580 which I gave to a friend recently because he was desperate to upgrade his PC and have since bought 2 Asus gtx 690's both 4gb cards.
Then, knowing that I can't actually use the standard 875 watt power supply for these or the stock cooling because the mATX board only has two PCI slots, I started my first ever watercooled rig.
A more detailed post will come this afternoon after gym biggrin.gif but so far, basic overview of parts going in will be this.
Asus rampage IV mATX board (in the mail)
Trident X 32gb ram rated to 2400 - aim is to overclock to the best limit with advice (in the mail)
Current 3930k intel I7 6 core processor
Dual Asus GTX 690's (already here and one has heatkiller watercooler block installed already)
Corsair AX1200i power supply (subject to change because first one arrived dead and another poster here scared me over them)
SSD drive
1TB
Blu ray drive
and the case will still be the alienware case after they ripped me the hell off. Just because it is so pretty still and if for some reason it fails, probably the Predator case!
More details to come and a but load of photos tonight. Thanks for any advice, other than a new case and bigger motherboard, any changes are welcome.

Personally, I would think the 690's 2gb usable vram might bottleneck you on higher resolutions.
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post #3 of 63
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With 2 690's I would have 8gb of vram,

1 card, 4gb, so 2gb per chip in the 690 meaning 8gb of usable ram? Am I missing something here?
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With 2 690's I would have 8gb of vram,
1 card, 4gb, so 2gb per chip in the 690 meaning 8gb of usable ram? Am I missing something here?

NO... SLI does not work like that. A single 690 is basically 2 x 680 sli. It really only have 2gb of vram usable. 2 x 690 is quad 680 sli. It still only have 2gb of vram usable. IMO

VRAM does not increase in sli or CF. If you SLI 2 x 4gb 680. You would have 4gb of vram available. IMO
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You already own both 690s? If not, I would wait on getting a 2nd to see if its REALLY needed.

And as said above, each GPU has 2 GB, so you will have 4 GPUs and 2GB of VRAM.
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You already own both 690s? If not, I would wait on getting a 2nd to see if its REALLY needed.

Agreed. What resolution are you gaming on? OP

Or wait until next gen.

IMO
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The memory is mirrored in SLI. Both GPUs need access to the same data at the same time to work together. Usable memory = total vram/# of GPUs.

And you'd be surprised what a 690 can do, I kind of agree on waiting on the second. What kind of monitor setup do you have?

Lastly with the RAM, keep in mind that it may not overclock that much. You mentioned you want to get the most out of it, but with high end ram kits there usually isn't much head room left. The manufacturers push the kits as much as possible. You've also got 32 GB there, so it'll be harder to overclock.

Looks like a top notch PC you're building, even by OCN standards. Good luck with it all.
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post #8 of 63
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Thanks guys smile.gif
I am running on three 24inch monitors and I game at 5670x1080

Some surround huds are too irritating to game with, but I have been hitting 99% of my single 690 in crysis 2 and crysis 3 is on the way :O
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5760x1080 if my memory is right.
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Thanks guys smile.gif
I am running on three 24inch monitors and I game at 5670x1080
Some surround huds are too irritating to game with, but I have been hitting 99% of my single 690 in crysis 2 and crysis 3 is on the way :O

As per above you won't have 8GB of VRAM only 2GB.

But even though you're seeing 99% GPU usage are you getting acceptable frames? I've got both my 670's pegged at 99% and getting insane frames. More than enough for my resolution.
 
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