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The Compact Splash seems really well designed and about the lower size limit for a mITX water cooled case.

I think anything CaseLabs does which comes out larger would need to have a good reason for being larger. For example the Compact Splash explicitly does not accommodate ATX PSUs because of the size penalty over SFF PSUs, so CaseLabs could bump up the case volume to support the wider choice of ATX PSUs. OTOH if the S3 is not sufficiently small, I think it will lose its appeal for mITX customers.

id use this sort of layout on splash but make it with another 240 rad at the bottom remove the 120 and will make more space for larger psus.
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id use this sort of layout on splash but make it with another 240 rad at the bottom remove the 120 and will make more space for larger psus.

Then you'll need to place the disk drives somewhere else.

Also, a larger PSU may block the clearence about the CPU to be an issue even for waterblocks.
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Then you'll need to place the disk drives somewhere else.
Also, a larger PSU may block the clearence about the CPU to be an issue even for waterblocks.

didnt thnk of that, could place the disk drives where the 120 rad is now and stick with the smaller psu
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yeah although it fits it gives you minimal space for the wires to come out. Might need a bit more room and of course a 90" power cable in the back of it. Maybe if it was rotated 90 degrees it would help.
Essentially when you have to cater to long GPUs it means there is a bunch of wasted space there as the mitx board is not so deep

I guess silverstone already did that with the PSU:

     
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I guess silverstone already did that with the PSU:

Node 304 does the same thing but horizontally.



For mITX, the two places for an ATX PSU to minimize space are:
1) next to the motherboard but not blocking long PCIe cards (see above)
2) floating above the CPU/motherboard (see below)

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Heres Evga's new watercooled mITX case:







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Heres Evga's new watercooled mITX case:
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The issue with their design is that the radiator locations forces the PSU to be down a bit lower.... enough to block the long PCIe cards. To account for this, EVGA had to put some additional space between PSU and mobo. (I think this is where the pump is?)

This is fine since it is as designed for a 240 rad but isn't the smallest possible design if going the air cooling route.
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Since CaseLabs does configurable cases so well and since mITX demands a small case, what about some kind of "componentized" case? There could be a component that holds the motherboard, CPU and one large GPU. A second component would hold radiator, associated fans, pump and reservoir. A third component would hold the PSU and a final component would hold the SSDs and HDDs etc. The 4 components could be stacked like CaseLabs' existing case + pedestals or maybe left separate and joined by cables / hoses.

They could offer a couple of different sizes of each component so that the final box is just large enough to hold whatever each owner requires.

If people really liked the "separates" approach, CaseLabs could define some kind of "meta connector" for each component so that each component could be quickly disconnected/reconnected from the other components. For example the SSD/HDD component would just need SATA power and data connections. The radiator component would just need a power connector for the fans + pump and one for the hose(s). I can see the sleeving guys going crazy over this! smile.gif

Sorry if this make no sense in the hardware world (I am a software guy)
post #39 of 345
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Since CaseLabs does configurable cases so well and since mITX demands a small case, what about some kind of "componentized" case? There could be a component that holds the motherboard, CPU and one large GPU. A second component would hold radiator, associated fans, pump and reservoir. A third component would hold the PSU and a final component would hold the SSDs and HDDs etc. The 4 components could be stacked like CaseLabs' existing case + pedestals or maybe left separate and joined by cables / hoses.
They could offer a couple of different sizes of each component so that the final box is just large enough to hold whatever each owner requires.
If people really liked the "separates" approach, CaseLabs could define some kind of "meta connector" for each component so that each component could be quickly disconnected/reconnected from the other components. For example the SSD/HDD component would just need SATA power and data connections. The radiator component would just need a power connector for the fans + pump and one for the hose(s). I can see the sleeving guys going crazy over this! smile.gif
Sorry if this make no sense in the hardware world (I am a software guy)
This could actually be similar to the pedestal idea, but it would be multiple pedestals that actually make up the case somehow. I am thinking about fitting a 240mm rad externally to my SG05 and making a custom housing with some sort of perforated metal, or just mounting it and having the tubing run through the case, but I'm not sure how well it would work.
Anyways, I think the idea of being customizable is really neat, and would bring something to the mITX table.
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I love the Compact Splash design (wish I thought of it tongue.gif) That being said, I'm sure our design will be a little larger and more modular. With the rise of the new enthusiast ITX MB's, you can build a pretty decent gaming system around one.
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