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Poll Results: Can you come to this event?

 
  • 9% (23)
    Yes - I would like to bench rigs with Ln2.
  • 7% (18)
    Yes - I would like to spectate for the whole day.
  • 4% (12)
    Yes - I would like to spectate for part of the day.
  • 47% (118)
    Yes - I would like to participate in the LAN.
  • 31% (78)
    No - I can't come and would like to suggest another event location / time.
249 Total Votes  
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Originally Posted by RikkAndrsn View Post

Created this group to help keep people nice and organized:
OCN Toronto LAN Parties & Meetups

Here's a quick update (from what I know, which may be incomplete):

We were unable to come to terms with Steamwhistle on a weekend that worked for both us and them in the June/July time frame. Admin and myself (and presumably whoever else is involved from the shadows) are back to looking at venues. One of the reasons this has been difficult is because we're fully committed to finding a location with suitable internet so we don't have a repeat of everyone sharing a single DSL line, and venues in Toronto tend to fall into two categories: small (around 5k sq ft) with no internet and too little power; and large (10k+ sq ft) with sometimes enough power and internet but usually very expensive. This puts us in a situation where we more or less have to change our strategy of coming up with a size and budget and then finding a suitable venue to picking a venue and then working backwards towards making it viable.

From my personal experience having worked with over 35 LAN parties of various sizes in both the US and Canada, I would say that having this event in June is pretty unrealistic. The next 2ish weeks will determine if the same thing happens to July. We are still committed to hosting a LAN party this summer, but at the end of the day we're limited by the availability of Toronto venues and that's what's making this tricky.

 

What kind of power are we looking at? maybe there is something in Newmarket? there are 2 hotels here and 2 sports complexes and because it's just north of T.O. it may be cheaper and people can still get here.

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What kind of power are we looking at? maybe there is something in Newmarket? there are 2 hotels here and 2 sports complexes and because it's just north of T.O. it may be cheaper and people can still get here.
We're looking for 1,000+ amps. A lot of venues only have 480 amp breakers which means we need to rent generators to bring in extra power, but some have their main power hookups designed to be expanded which lets us drop in temporary extra capacity.

On the internet side we've found that a lot of locations aren't directly on any fiber paths so they only have access to DSL or cable based broadband, which limits us to 150 down 10 up with Rogers and the unstable promise of 175/175 from Bell (which they only offer in 175/30 to businesses. One of the tricky things we've noticed is that venues who don't have a fast enough internet connection have basically tried to bill us either the entire year worth of the line or more for having the line installed. We've had quotes come in as high as $28,000 for a fiber connection and over $6,000 for a cable line, so it's important to us to find a venue which already has an existing internet connection (preferably a scalable one).

I'll post a list of venues we've looked at in the group.
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We're looking for 1,000+ amps. A lot of venues only have 480 amp breakers which means we need to rent generators to bring in extra power, but some have their main power hookups designed to be expanded which lets us drop in temporary extra capacity.

On the internet side we've found that a lot of locations aren't directly on any fiber paths so they only have access to DSL or cable based broadband, which limits us to 150 down 10 up with Rogers and the unstable promise of 175/175 from Bell (which they only offer in 175/30 to businesses. One of the tricky things we've noticed is that venues who don't have a fast enough internet connection have basically tried to bill us either the entire year worth of the line or more for having the line installed. We've had quotes come in as high as $28,000 for a fiber connection and over $6,000 for a cable line, so it's important to us to find a venue which already has an existing internet connection (preferably a scalable one).

I'll post a list of venues we've looked at in the group.

Come to my place here in Germany - I have fiber in my flat tongue.gifthumb.gif

On a serious note, that is a shame that a lot of venues would even be giving you such an outrageous quote for what you are asking for. We need to go back to the AMD HQ in Markham tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by RikkAndrsn View Post

Created this group to help keep people nice and organized:
OCN Toronto LAN Parties & Meetups

Here's a quick update (from what I know, which may be incomplete):

We were unable to come to terms with Steamwhistle on a weekend that worked for both us and them in the June/July time frame. Admin and myself (and presumably whoever else is involved from the shadows) are back to looking at venues. One of the reasons this has been difficult is because we're fully committed to finding a location with suitable internet so we don't have a repeat of everyone sharing a single DSL line, and venues in Toronto tend to fall into two categories: small (around 5k sq ft) with no internet and too little power; and large (10k+ sq ft) with sometimes enough power and internet but usually very expensive. This puts us in a situation where we more or less have to change our strategy of coming up with a size and budget and then finding a suitable venue to picking a venue and then working backwards towards making it viable.

From my personal experience having worked with over 35 LAN parties of various sizes in both the US and Canada, I would say that having this event in June is pretty unrealistic. The next 2ish weeks will determine if the same thing happens to July. We are still committed to hosting a LAN party this summer, but at the end of the day we're limited by the availability of Toronto venues and that's what's making this tricky.
Many thanx to you and admin for working so hard to try and make this a reality ! Nowhere near as easy as some people think it is to organize such an event, parameters all have to be in sync and also have an experienced and dedicated group of organizers ! Kudos to the both of you !!!
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Took some time to write out two documents for everybody's viewing pleasure:

GTA Venue Selection

How we select games to be featured in the LAN section

We might be dropping some cash to get our own networking hardware soon, so I might write a section about our LAN design philosophy with hardware references if it becomes pertinent. Might talk about servers we plan to add for additional services in that area, too.
post #646 of 750
if i may have you tried looking just outside of TO markham and Missasuga have some great venues
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if i may have you tried looking just outside of TO markham and Missasuga have some great venues
Other than stuff out by the airport (which we have looked at) there aren't a lot of spaces with purpose built multifunction spaces. Ball rooms and conference centres are kind of poorly suited to what we're going to try and accomplish. That leaves us with convention centres and old industrial buildings that have been refit. Currently looking at warehouses for rental and arenas with the ability to go dry pad. We're also looking to go fairly central and as close as possible to as many main transit routes as we can get to make things easier for people.
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Glad to know you guys are still working on this.
Thanks for the dedication you are showing to getting this event running thumb.gif
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newmarket would be nice since i already live here lol. Anywhere in the Toronto area would be fairly easy to get to since public transit reaches pretty far around here.
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what about the venue that we used last time? it was decent minus the internet.. im sure with enough notivece they could fix that
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