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Poll Results: Can you come to this event?

 
  • 9% (23)
    Yes - I would like to bench rigs with Ln2.
  • 7% (18)
    Yes - I would like to spectate for the whole day.
  • 4% (12)
    Yes - I would like to spectate for part of the day.
  • 47% (118)
    Yes - I would like to participate in the LAN.
  • 31% (78)
    No - I can't come and would like to suggest another event location / time.
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what about the venue that we used last time? it was decent minus the internet.. im sure with enough notivece they could fix that

I think they're thinking bigger this time.
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what about the venue that we used last time? it was decent minus the internet.. im sure with enough notivece they could fix that
Admin has put Airship 37 back on the table. You're right that they could get internet with enough notice. The problem is the cost of it. When we received the quote for what it would cost to get either fiber or decent cable based broadband the amount exceeded $15,000 for a coaxial install and $28,000 to connect to the nearest workable fiber path.
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I think they're thinking bigger this time.
We're not necessarily thinking bigger but rather better, in terms of things learned and know we need to improve to be a better LAN. Airship 37 demonstrated the need for a larger venue as it was a bit cramped as it filled up and the place got hot until night rolled around and temperatures outside dropped off. Faster internet is obviously a must as well. The frustration and delays that having 30 minute Steam logins created was just something no LAN party wants to have to deal with, especially on a very limited budget.
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Admin has put Airship 37 back on the table. You're right that they could get internet with enough notice. The problem is the cost of it. When we received the quote for what it would cost to get either fiber or decent cable based broadband the amount exceeded $15,000 for a coaxial install and $28,000 to connect to the nearest workable fiber path.
We're not necessarily thinking bigger but rather better, in terms of things learned and know we need to improve to be a better LAN. Airship 37 demonstrated the need for a larger venue as it was a bit cramped as it filled up and the place got hot until night rolled around and temperatures outside dropped off. Faster internet is obviously a must as well. The frustration and delays that having 30 minute Steam logins created was just something no LAN party wants to have to deal with, especially on a very limited budget.

Also the benching area was far too dark....
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LAN Vs. abroad (some of our community are not going to be able to attend for legitimate distance issues, so lets bring the party to them, using our OCN game servers, etc biggrin.gif)

Yes please! Impossible to attend your events when most are held in the US! redface.gifmad.gif
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LAN vs WAN was meant to go down last time but the internet was sucky. Great Idea, fingers crossed redface.gif
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What about trying something very different like an outside venue? Seeing the generators and cabling setup at the AMD event made me realize how easy it is to get power to remote locations - FILTERED power that works well with no surges or brownouts. I'm pretty sure ALL of us were running off generator power at AMD and I don't know a single person who had a problem with their power supply or computer.

That just leaves us with an internet connection, and there has been a lot of progress lately with line-of-site radio and even two-way satellite setups. We don't need great pings (latency) we just need a fast pipe - I'm assuming at a LAN PARTY we'll focus on LAN gaming and not Internet gaming - the only reason we need internet is for steam access and killing time when not gaming.

Any thoughts on renting an open field for a weekend and a huge tent?!?! Lots of places to pitch a sleeping tent for those who "need sleep" wink.gif
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What about trying something very different like an outside venue? Seeing the generators and cabling setup at the AMD event made me realize how easy it is to get power to remote locations - FILTERED power that works well with no surges or brownouts. I'm pretty sure ALL of us were running off generator power at AMD and I don't know a single person who had a problem with their power supply or computer.

That just leaves us with an internet connection, and there has been a lot of progress lately with line-of-site radio and even two-way satellite setups. We don't need great pings (latency) we just need a fast pipe - I'm assuming at a LAN PARTY we'll focus on LAN gaming and not Internet gaming - the only reason we need internet is for steam access and killing time when not gaming.

Any thoughts on renting an open field for a weekend and a huge tent?!?! Lots of places to pitch a sleeping tent for those who "need sleep" wink.gif
Given the state of gaming right now the only major title which has "true LAN" would be CS:GO. We're looking to revamp the games list, likely dropping TF2 for Dota 2 or League of Legends. Both games require a low latency connection so satellite is more or less out of the question. As far as a fast enough line of sight system we'd need to set that up directly with an ISP as the faster corporate ones need fixed dish positions so we'd need it to be near an existing communications tower (within 1 km with direct line of sight for best performance). Overall it's not a perfect option. There are venues that work fine for us but Admin has a pretty distinct idea of what he wants our venues to look like visually and most of my proposed venues got shot down due to not meeting the profile or being too bland/generic. A tent outside a venue like the Toronto Congress Centre, International Centre, or Exhibition Place would give us a great opportunity to have on site internet nearby but bringing in mobile cooling to keep it at a reasonable temperature could double our power requirements.

I'll pursue it though as it is a suggestion I hadn't considered.

At the moment the potential dates are:

6th of July if we manage to get Airship 37 again (would have no internet again)
6th of July if Berkeley Church accepts our event and isn't too expensive
13th of July if Admin changes his mind and we use Wychwood Barns

None of these are official or confirmed in any way. They're just the only available days for the event venues and there's a lot more planning than that where something could go wrong and take the event off the table again.
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i know we pay a $20 door fee but does that also cover tournaments at the LAN? if not how much would we pay to enter the sc2 tournament?
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i know we pay a $20 door fee but does that also cover tournaments at the LAN? if not how much would we pay to enter the sc2 tournament?

If it's an SC2 tournament at the LAN it's included in the ticket, if you're referring to the ongoing SC2 tournament, sadly it' just finished, but if there is another one, they're free to enter.

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i know we pay a $20 door fee but does that also cover tournaments at the LAN? if not how much would we pay to enter the sc2 tournament?
Due to seat and internet restrictions we probably won't be featuring SC2. We also try to do team games as much as possible as they lend to the LAN atmosphere better than soloist titles. In the past we've run CS:GO and TF2 but for this upcoming event we'll probably run CS:GO and a MOBA. We'll have to decide between Dota 2 and League of Legends but one of those will probably be the 2nd title.
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