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I also think a SSD is a solid addition if you can fit it into your budget. I hooked my father up with one and he loves it, and all he does is ebay, browse the web, email and play Snood! Even for small stuff, the speed helps. He has mentioned to me before that he loves having the speed for loading programs and the boot time compared to what he was used too. Considering the price of SSD's now, it is hard to justify not getting at least one for a build even if it isn't for gaming or anything like that. That being said, I wouldn't want to only have a 64GB SSD and no storage drive, so you have to strike a median according to your budget.


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Yeah, I didn't notice the GPU either. I would sell that and put it towards something useful for them. tongue.gif
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Have to agree with BD on the 4890. A lot of wasted energy there.
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I would actually disagree. I'd say an SSD would be perfect for them. They're not going to care about an overclockable processor, or a GPU that can do triple monitors natively (I'm assuming the OP's parents aren't very tech-savvy, correct me if I'm wrong) but they will notice if it's generally very quick and snappy, which is exactly what the SSD will do.

If you think his parents are the kind of people that sit with a stopwatch measuring how fast their computer boots up when they turn it on, then yeah Id be inclined to agree with you.

He posted a 64gb SSD. This would leave about 40gb of usable storage for their computer aside from the OS.

40gb.
I dont know about the OPs parents, but most parents like pictures. Lots of pictures. If these are SLR pictures, that 40gb will be gone pretty quick.

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I also think a SSD is a solid addition if you can fit it into your budget. I hooked my father up with one and he loves it, and all he does is ebay, browse the web, email and play Snood! Even for small stuff, the speed helps. He has mentioned to me before that he loves having the speed for loading programs and the boot time compared to what he was used too. Considering the price of SSD's now, it is hard to justify not getting at least one for a build even if it isn't for gaming or anything like that. That being said, I wouldn't want to only have a 64GB SSD and no storage drive, so you have to strike a median according to your budget.
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Yeah, I didn't notice the GPU either. I would sell that and put it towards something useful for them. tongue.gif

I think you overstate the increased performance of an SSD under normal use by quite a bit. He is not reading or writing from the SSD much if he is just browsing webpages. How much reading/writing do you really think your SSD does when you go to google.com? wth.gif

Do you really think that a person that is having their young son build a system for them because they dont know enough about it to do it themselves is going to notice the difference between an SSD and a regular HDD with 5x the storage for the tons of pics and videos that they are sure to take? No.

You could give them a IDE 160gb drive and they would probably say its super fast.
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Haha guys I had the 4890 sitting around, figured I would throw it in their rig. No extra cost to me.

I went with the SSD because I think they will love the snappiness of the system. They are generally busy folks and like to work from home so I think they will learn to appreciate it.
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If you think his parents are the kind of people that sit with a stopwatch measuring how fast their computer boots up when they turn it on, then yeah Id be inclined to agree with you.
He posted a 64gb SSD. This would leave about 40gb of usable storage for their computer aside from the OS.
40gb.


40GB is more than enough for a few programs, given he said they don't do much on it other than browse, email and some work stuff. Also, I think we should give our opinions on the matter and let the OP decide what his parents are like. He knows them, we don't. You don't have to be tech savvy or an enthusiast to appreciate a snappier system. Just my 2cents.gif.
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If you think his parents are the kind of people that sit with a stopwatch measuring how fast their computer boots up when they turn it on, then yeah Id be inclined to agree with you.
He posted a 64gb SSD. This would leave about 40gb of usable storage for their computer aside from the OS.
40gb.
I think you overstate the increased performance of an SSD under normal use by quite a bit. He is not reading or writing from the SSD much if he is just browsing webpages. How much reading/writing do you really think your SSD does when you go to google.com? oO
Do you really think that a person that is having their young son build a system for them because they dont know enough about it to do it themselves is going to notice the difference between an SSD and a regular HDD with 5x the storage for the tons of pics and videos that they are sure to take? No.
You could give them a IDE 160gb drive and they would probably say its super fast.

I'm not. I recently upgraded both my family's desktop, and my dad's laptop, both with SSDs. All three family members commented that the desktop was much faster than it had been before. I'm curious, have you ever used one? Sort of sounds like you haven't.

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40GB is more than enough for a few programs, given he said they don't do much on it other than browse, email and some work stuff. Also, I think we should give our opinions on the matter and let the OP decide what his parents are like. He knows them, we don't. You don't have to be tech savvy or an enthusiast to appreciate a snappier system. Just my 2cents.gif.

Agreed. I have all of my non-game applications on my 128GB SSD, along with a 10GB Dropbox, and about 20GB of game files (the ones that get dumped in Documents) and I still have 60GB free. For a while my girlfriend's laptop was running on a 32GB SSD, and there was plenty of room for all the applications she used. (Namely Chrome, Photoshop, and Skype)
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40GB is more than enough for a few programs, given he said they don't do much on it other than browse, email and some work stuff. Also, I think we should give our opinions on the matter and let the OP decide what his parents are like. He knows them, we don't. You don't have to be tech savvy or an enthusiast to appreciate a snappier system. Just my 2cents.gif.

My retired aircraft engineer grandfather uses a Pentium 2 to check his emails. He wonders why it takes a long time to load stuff. I tried to convince him to just get a tablet.

People that are not tech savvy are not tech savvy. They will not notice this extra snappiness that we nerds come to appreciate. The OP might want to put one in there because its cool or whatever, but the parents will literally not know the difference (fact) and the only thing they will get from it is decreased storage.

If the parents were tech savvy enough to recognize the minute differences between a mechanical HD and an SDD under regular use (aside from boot times, break out those stopwatches mom and dad), they wouldnt be asking their kid what computer they should build.
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I'm not. I recently upgraded both my family's desktop, and my dad's laptop, both with SSDs. All three family members commented that the desktop was much faster than it had been before. I'm curious, have you ever used one? Sort of sounds like you haven't.
Again- you could put a new IDE or SATA1 drive in there and people that didnt know any better would say "Wow this is so much faster!" The fact that this has to be explained to you speaks volumes.

Put your mom in a 300hp car and get on the gas and shes going to freak out. Does that mean that a 300hp car is the most powerful thing in the world, or that she just doesnt have any understanding or what is powerful and whats not?
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People that are not tech savvy are not tech savvy. They will not notice this extra snappiness that we nerds come to appreciate. The OP might want to put one in there because its cool or whatever, but the parents will literally not know the difference (fact) and the only thing they will get from it is decreased storage.
Again- you could put a new IDE or SATA1 drive in there and people that didnt know any better would say "Wow this is so much faster!"

I'm now 100% sure you've never used an SSD. What you're saying is just wrong, please stop spouting bad advice.
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I'm now 100% sure you've never used an SSD. What you're saying is just wrong, please stop spouting bad advice.

What did you possibly get from that that could have given you that conclusion? Other than a bunch of assumption of course.

Stop putting your own experience in this, step back and look at it from a laymans perspective.
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My retired aircraft engineer grandfather uses a Pentium 2 to check his emails. He wonders why it takes a long time to load stuff. I tried to convince him to just get a tablet.
People that are not tech savvy are not tech savvy. They will not notice this extra snappiness that we nerds come to appreciate. The OP might want to put one in there because its cool or whatever, but the parents will literally not know the difference (fact) and the only thing they will get from it is decreased storage.
If the parents were tech savvy enough to recognize the minute differences between a mechanical HD and an SDD under regular use (aside from boot times, break out those stopwatches mom and dad), they wouldnt be asking their kid what computer they should build.
Again- you could put a new IDE or SATA1 drive in there and people that didnt know any better would say "Wow this is so much faster!" The fact that this has to be explained to you speaks volumes.
Put your mom in a 300hp car and get on the gas and shes going to freak out. Does that mean that a 300hp car is the most powerful thing in the world, or that she just doesnt have any understanding or what is powerful and whats not?


For the simple fact that my father (not tech savvy) did notice the difference, you claiming otherwise as "fact" is indeed not fact. Again, I will resort to what I said earlier about letting the OP decide what his parents would and would not appreciate. You don't have to be tech savvy to realize that your computer boots up in seconds compared to minutes. Time is something everyone understands, and rarely has enough of. Regardless though, your assumptions are completely biased. It is like you automatically assume that because someone isn't a techy, that they cannot appreciate speed and efficiency? That is an asinine statement if I ever saw one.


Also, my mother is from Alabama and grew up around race cars (3 of my uncles raced for a living), so that metaphor does nothing for me. tongue.gif
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