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Hello everyone, i am not 100% confident that this is the correct place for me to be posting but here it goes. I am looking to switch over from console gaming to PC gaming. I`ve never owned or purchased a gaming computer and im looking to spend around 1000$ on building or purchasing a computer. I liked the reviews i seen on the Sabertooth Z77 motherboard but i do not know what to put into the build to make it all run together well. I`d like the computer to be mainly for gaming and watching movies on or simply just browsing the internet. I need help, any is greatly appreciated.
post #2 of 18
Ditch the sabertooth, it's overpriced

Get the following

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 i5 3570k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128546 GA-Z77X-D3H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127667 that GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095 that PSU which is actually a great price now it's on sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096 samsung green magic memory, best memory around atm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188 that SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 Mechanical drive for storage


As for the rest, case etc you can pick what you want biggrin.gif, if you want an aftermarket cooler then stick with the hyper 212+ EVO I think it is, you'll get an overclock of around 4.4Ghz on that quite happily

Actually, Looking at it that comes in at $960 with $30 of mail-in cards, Whilst this is a bit steep I can see you using this machine for the next few years happily, I think with the case and monitor it might come in around $1100, so yes I'm a little over budget but I honestly think it's worth the squeeze. The other thing you can do is drop the 7950 to a 7850 which will save you around $100 but I would recommend against this since you're using it for gaming.

Regards

Comps
Edited by compuman145 - 1/8/13 at 1:53am
post #3 of 18
If you wanted a easier transition from console gaming, you could take advantage of steam's big picture. Just pickup a controller!

The sabertooth is a great board, however if you are on a $1000 budget I think you should go with something a little cheaper.. compuman145 posted some great suggestions.

I have run some ASRock board and liked them quite a bit! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157295
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I agree with the posters above, the Sabertooth, while a nice board, is overpriced and more than you need to spend with what want and your budget. You would be far better served spending the extra money on other components. Compuman145's list is actually quite good, I would heed his advice. You could decide for yourself on your case and the small stuff, and whether you want AMD or nVidia for a GPU (you can find comparable models at similar prices, albeit AMD is usually cheaper). It is "to each their own" with GPU branding though, so I'll avoid getting into that argument with anyone. tongue.gif


There are a couple of really solid motherboards though in the price point of that Gigabyte model that are great IMO. MSI, Gigabyte and ASRock make some really good ones for ~$130 to $150. It gives you a multitude of options for colors (if that matters to you).


Side note, that PSU is a steal right now with that sale price, definitely pick that up before the price goes back up. Seasonic make some of the best PSU's around. thumb.gif
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The one thing I would say actually is steer clear of the ASrock boards, they are known to be using old and not particularly solid VRMs which can overheat and go bang. The MSI boards are very good however the Mpower which is the best one they do in the price range again doesn't use the same high quality VRMs that the gigabyte boards use and ASUS.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd use an MSI board, however the gigabyte ones are just better all round.

As for GPU's yes, the AMD GPU's are cheaper but you do get more bang for buck, if you're just gaming and not going to make use of the CUDA cores then stick with AMD biggrin.gif

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The one thing I would say actually is steer clear of the ASrock boards, they are known to be using old and not particularly solid VRMs which can overheat and go bang. The MSI boards are very good however the Mpower which is the best one they do in the price range again doesn't use the same high quality VRMs that the gigabyte boards use and ASUS.
Don't get me wrong though, I'd use an MSI board, however the gigabyte ones are just better all round.
As for GPU's yes, the AMD GPU's are cheaper but you do get more bang for buck, if you're just gaming and not going to make use of the CUDA cores then stick with AMD biggrin.gif
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In a nutshell, I agree on the VRM issue. I use a Gigabyte myself (G1 Sniper 3). But if I were to pick up another brand, I would go for MSI as a second. I just don't honestly like Asus after all the issues I've had with them in the past (RMA'ing with them has been a nightmare every time, so I avoid them now). Gigabyte is my preferred brand still though. But to each their own. If you were looking into a non Gigabyte in a decent price range though, I would look at the MSI GD-55 and MSI GD-65. The GD-65 is a bit more, though.
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I do love ASUS, but I have also have issues in the past... To be honest I do think gigabyte is at the top of it's game at the moment and I do tend to recommend their boards at the moment rather than anyone elses. If the colour scheme isn't to your taste then you can obviously go with MSI or ASUS.

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Does newegg ship to canada or is it USA only?
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Does newegg ship to canada or is it USA only?


newegg actually has a canada site too: http://www.newegg.ca/
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So I did some fiddling around on PC part picker Canada and I have got a couple of options for you PCnooby though first I think you need to clarify exactly what you are looking for. A $1000 system that includes the price of an OS, monitor, keyboard and mouse. Or are you just looking to spend a $1000 on the computer itself and already have everything else. The difference really is $200 bucks which could change what people recommend to you quite a bit. So my first suggestion includes an OS, monitor, keyboard and mouse.

CPU: i5 3470 ($189.99)
Mobo: AsRock Z77 Extreme 3 or MSI Z77A-GD55 ($99.99 or $94.99)
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600Mhz CL9 ($35.99)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm ($64.99)
Graphics: Gigabyte GTX 660Ti OC 2GB or Gigabyte HD 7870 OC 2GB ($247.48 or $255.15)
Power: Corsair 550W 80 Plus ($54.99)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black ($99.99)
Monitor: BenQ 21.5" ($109.99)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit or Windows 8 64 bit ($96.99 or $97.99)
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech MK200 ($24.99)

Total: $1010.00 to $1025.00

I gave you some options at different points. I hear good stuff about MSI boards, I use an AsRock board and haven't encountered any trouble at all. Their specs are identical and there is only $5 difference so it really is an aesthetics choice there. I know people have recommended some Samsung magic green RAM already, however I would suggest that you don't get that; though they operate at a fairly standard 1600mhz their CL11 timings are pretty poor. CL9 is now pretty standard for 1600mhz dimms; I use CL8 myself. Do the timings make a noticeable difference? Probably not but since these ones that I have suggested are faster and cost four bucks less why would you pay more for the slower memory? Nice solid hard drive with a good capacity; to accommodate the OS and monitor I dropped and SSD but I really do recommend that you get at least a 256Gb SSD to jump performance up. Gigabyte graphics cards right now are amazing, great price, low noise and high performance with big factory overclocks. ASUS still probably are a whisker better but there price premium is huge. As for which one? Up to you really do you prefer Nvidia or AMD? I believe performance wise they are pretty similar, but I could be wrong. This power supply is $30.00 cheaper than the Seasonic suggested and also isn't a massive waste. This system is not going to draw more than 350W, if you decided to add a second graphics card this PSU would still be sufficient for your needs. Case, OS and monitor are up to you really. This is just to give you a rough idea of costs.

Option two will drop the OS, monitor and keyboard. So it will hopefully include a boosted performance.


CPU: i5 3470 ($189.99)
Mobo: AsRock Z77 Extreme 3 or MSI Z77A-GD55 ($99.99 or $94.99)
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB 1600Mhz CL9 ($35.99)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm ($64.99)
SSD: OCZ Agility 4 256GB ($177.60)
Graphics: Gigabyte GTX 670 OC 2GB or Gigabyte HD 7950 WF3 3GB ($341.89 or $289.99)
Power: Corsair 550W 80 Plus ($54.99)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black ($99.99)

Total: $1020.00 to $1070.00

I've added in a good SSD and this will definitely boost your boot and load times. Also the upgraded graphics will kick butt in game. The 7950 is a fair bit cheaper but I can tell you the Gigabyte 670 OC is a great card and superior to the 7950 in most games; I use it in my own rig and it's worth every cent.

Also I have put a i5 3470 chip in both of these rigs and left out an aftermarket cooler. The 3470 is plenty for gaming, the graphics card matters more anyway. Dropping down from a 3570K and losing the cooler saves you around $60-70. The 3570k and Hyper 212 cooler are only necessary if you want to overclock; which is not strictly necessary for gaming and doesn't lead to massive gaming improvements. Save that money and pump it into a better graphics card and monitor. thumb.gif
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