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Originally Posted by jr92 View Post

I wasn't going to use the value, I just wanted to know whether or not I could of potentially benefited from using a higher DPI just incase I was short of my useful estimated dpi.

but you do realise, that in the end everything what matters regarding pixelperfect aiming, is your ingame sens right?
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post #32 of 48

Wow. so much misinformation here.

 

Just PM me and ill get you sorted out.

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Wow. so much misinformation here.

Just PM me and ill get you sorted out.

Can you enlighten us with your magic answers too, instead of just PM'ing one guy? Not only us, but maybe also other people in the future who might want information like this and will search for a similar thread.
 
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post #34 of 48

Because there are dozens of threads covering this exact same thing.   Glymbol and wo1fwood already answered the question a page or two back.

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Because there are dozens of threads covering this exact same thing.   Glymbol and wo1fwood already answered the question a page or two back.

Why do you have to PM him then? Can't you just say that you agree with those two posts? It just seemed like you have some information not mentioned in this thread (or others) already.
 
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post #36 of 48

I kinda did, just didn't reference anyone.   Simply easier for me to explain without post contradicting in between.

post #37 of 48

tl;dr 

 

-DPI value is meaningless in any shape, way, or form when it comes to pixel accuracy.  You have to remove this silly idea from your brain. 

 

- Your pixel precision depends on angle degree value at any given hor res/fov combo.   In game sensitivity is a multiplier of m_yaw and m_pitch which happens to be locked on 1 axis in valve games.   Default value for both is 0.022.

 

0.022 x (1.8 sensitivity) = 0.0396 yaw/pitch=  "smallest" pixel @ 1920 hor, 106.26 FOV. = 1440 hor 90 fov

0.022 x (3.6 sensitivity) = 0.0762 yaw/pitch=  "largest" pixel  @ 1920 hor, 106.26 FOV. = 1440 hor 90 fov.

 

@ a resolution half it's size.. lets say 960 x 540, 106.26 fov,  (720, 90) you can basically double your yaw and pitch and essentially keep the same precision.

 

 

But in reality, it does not matter as much.  You do not need to adjust your sensitivity like so.  I think your current settings are beyond fine for the game and personally know invite players using very similar settings. 

 

If by any chance you are uncomfortable with scoped weapons, you can mess with the zoom sensitivity ratio setting and increase precision by lowering the default value. 

 

 

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You realise resolution in CSGO makes no difference whatsoever, head size stays the same. It isn't 1.6
 
 
Technically didn't even make a difference in 1.6... other than scaling models to a specific resolution size.  The game just reads off whatever the graphic driver tells it. Same thing would happen in any alternative games provided similar models and what not. 
 
It was silly to play on large resolution as limited crosshair size and locked 90 FOV without hor+ scaling kinda hindered the experience.  I think CSP dev team is dumb for carrying this model over. Hell, they actually removed hor+ and cut off vertical resolution on anything over 4:3....
 
I just don't understand the point of porting 1.6 to source if theres really nothing to show for other than slightly better and now "dated" (dont bother me) graphics for spectator mode.  Should have just retextured 1.6 and fixed bugs while improving little things mentioned above. But alas 5 years too late. /rant
 
 
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A 120hz LCD still cannot even remotely compete with a high end CRT at 240hz or even 300, Not sure if they ever got to 300, But still, If you were aiming for true competitiveness you would have a CRT, it isn't like they are expensive just bulky,. And again as we've said, Either view the thread and do the math yourself, OR STOP WORRYING ITS NOT NEEDED, JUST PLAY AT THE DPI YOU FIND COMFORTABLE
 
Please tell me where I can find a 240hz CRT.   All the high end models I'm aware of cap off in the 150-170hz area, with a few capable of reaching 200 or so.. And that's at 640x480 or 800x600.

I agree with your 2nd statement though.

post #38 of 48
Kind of blame Sujoy for all the misinformation when he made the 4*horizontal/dpi calc. I can understand where he wanted to go with it, because at the time mice were releasing "New massive pro gamer DPI mouse is so awesome with 1000 more dpi than it's predecessor!!" which was pretty useless for FPS gamers only to cause more diversity, such as the fallacy that the higher dpi = higher accuracy. But years later similar sens calcs will be seen as a normal thing to do, to work out what a useful DPI - whatever that actually meant (funnily never got explained why it was useful, other than "well more is simply not necessary".
post #39 of 48

Sujoy's calculation works or rather gives a rough idea, but focus' on 360 degree sens and how much DPI you "need" to achieve a specific mm/inch sensitivity or pad distance. DPI serves as that sensitivity.

 

I know it sounds like im contradicting myself, but you just have to look at this from another angle. (No pun intended)

 

Edit: Wish modern games dropped the sensitivity model and allowed gamers to simply adjust yaw and pitch independently. Would clear some confusion.


Edited by Skylit - 1/8/13 at 6:55pm
post #40 of 48
High DPI = bad. End of story
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