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i know some people say that it is preference, but seriously i CAN NOT see how somebody would prefer reds unless they are going off of what they read online. sure, online everyone says "oh yea mx red best for gaming sweet" but in reality, blue is so sharp and crisp for gaming, so much better of a tactile response than reds. i actually tried all four, and playing a game that requires an IMMENSELY fast and responsive keypressing ability (faster than any other game i have EVER heard of), i must say, here is my hierarchy: 1.blue 2.black 3.red 4.brown 5.rubber dome.

for gaming, those that are considered good (brown/red) is actually the worst (at least for incredibly fast paced games like the ones i play). blue are also the best for typing, and i type 100 wpm so i think my opinion is realistic for that too. i think if more people tried every type of mech keyboard for 5 minutes straight they would realize that this is true
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You can't see it b/c it's not your preference. Other people can see it b/c it's their preference. Many pro gamers use brown/reds, as well as rubber dome. It don't matter, it's what people prefer.
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i know some people say that it is preference, but seriously i CAN NOT see how somebody would prefer reds unless they are going off of what they read online. sure, online everyone says "oh yea mx red best for gaming sweet" but in reality, blue is so sharp and crisp for gaming, so much better of a tactile response than reds. i actually tried all four, and playing a game that requires an IMMENSELY fast and responsive keypressing ability (faster than any other game i have EVER heard of), i must say, here is my hierarchy: 1.blue 2.black 3.red 4.brown 5.rubber dome.

for gaming, those that are considered good (brown/red) is actually the worst (at least for incredibly fast paced games like the ones i play). blue are also the best for typing, and i type 100 wpm so i think my opinion is realistic for that too. i think if more people tried every type of mech keyboard for 5 minutes straight they would realize that this is true
What games do you play?? Arent blues and browns similar except for the clicking noise?
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i know some people say that it is preference, but seriously i CAN NOT see how somebody would prefer reds unless they are going off of what they read online. sure, online everyone says "oh yea mx red best for gaming sweet" but in reality, blue is so sharp and crisp for gaming, so much better of a tactile response than reds. i actually tried all four, and playing a game that requires an IMMENSELY fast and responsive keypressing ability (faster than any other game i have EVER heard of), i must say, here is my hierarchy: 1.blue 2.black 3.red 4.brown 5.rubber dome.

for gaming, those that are considered good (brown/red) is actually the worst (at least for incredibly fast paced games like the ones i play). blue are also the best for typing, and i type 100 wpm so i think my opinion is realistic for that too. i think if more people tried every type of mech keyboard for 5 minutes straight they would realize that this is true

Funny that. You cannot make a statement like that saying what is best. There are types of things BECAUSE people have their preferences. I find the clicking in blues pretty nice but apart from that, its horrible. What you said just doesnt make sense IMO. With immensely fast and responsive keypressing ability, blues arent the way to go at all. Double tap fast enough and nothing happens which means you are not immensely fast, also, reds have a lower actuation force. I for one have tried all of them including clears and I definitely prefer Reds to blues. I prefer browns to blues as well.
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i know some people say that it is preference, but seriously i CAN NOT see how somebody would prefer reds unless they are going off of what they read online. sure, online everyone says "oh yea mx red best for gaming sweet" but in reality, blue is so sharp and crisp for gaming, so much better of a tactile response than reds. i actually tried all four, and playing a game that requires an IMMENSELY fast and responsive keypressing ability (faster than any other game i have EVER heard of), i must say, here is my hierarchy: 1.blue 2.black 3.red 4.brown 5.rubber dome.

for gaming, those that are considered good (brown/red) is actually the worst (at least for incredibly fast paced games like the ones i play). blue are also the best for typing, and i type 100 wpm so i think my opinion is realistic for that too. i think if more people tried every type of mech keyboard for 5 minutes straight they would realize that this is true

That is your personal opinion, not fact. Reds are not supposed to be tactile, they're liner switches.
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i know some people say that it is preference, but seriously i CAN NOT see how somebody would prefer reds. sure, online everyone says "oh yea mx red best for gaming sweet"

I could say the same about blues. Personally I find blues terrible for gaming.
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i think if more people tried every type of mech keyboard for 5 minutes straight they would realize that this is true

No, that is what you think everyone should believe. It's all personal preference.

I think the majority of people by now who are interested in mechanical keyboards have tried the 4 most common cherry switches (blues, browns, blacks & reds) now that mechanical keyboards have become much more mainstream.
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Arent blues and browns similar except for the clicking noise?

Pretty much, however browns have a lower actuation force of 45g (55g peak) compared to 50g (60g peak) for blues, and the tactile bump in browns is a lot less pronounced than blues. It's actually quite a soft almost subtle bump.
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Pretty much, however browns have a lower actuation force of 45g (55g peak) compared to 50g (60g peak) for blues, and the tactile bump in browns is a lot less pronounced than blues. It's actually quite a soft almost subtle bump.
Yea I know that much about browns since I have the BWUS. Never tried out blues since I thought the clicking would be too loud since I game at night.
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Good day all,

Hoping not to hijack the tread but this seems to be the most in depth conversation I have found on keyboards.

I am looking for getting a keyboard and mouse for my wife. She is a high level user in the admin area, not games. Her typing speed is well over 100+ words a minute. Listen to her typing is like hearing a machine gun go off. She goes through keyboards in no time. She also does graphics at her work so the lack of precision of over the counter mice drives her nuts.

I saw the article on the K95s and was thinking of getting them for her. She can really use the macros for her work. Definitely use the sturdy construction. Same with the precision and better construction of the mouse.

Question I have is that I am a bit confuse on the talk of the different key types. I am following them as so much as they are different actuators for typing but not sure which would be best. She started typing on a IBM Selectric. She prefers a typing with a feel to it. Most modern keyboards give her very little tactile feedback.

Is the K95 for her or would you folks recommend another alternative?

Thank you for your assistance,
Jim
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Good day all,

Hoping not to hijack the tread but this seems to be the most in depth conversation I have found on keyboards.

I am looking for getting a keyboard and mouse for my wife. She is a high level user in the admin area, not games. Her typing speed is well over 100+ words a minute. Listen to her typing is like hearing a machine gun go off. She goes through keyboards in no time. She also does graphics at her work so the lack of precision of over the counter mice drives her nuts.

I saw the article on the K95s and was thinking of getting them for her. She can really use the macros for her work. Definitely use the sturdy construction. Same with the precision and better construction of the mouse.

Question I have is that I am a bit confuse on the talk of the different key types. I am following them as so much as they are different actuators for typing but not sure which would be best. She started typing on a IBM Selectric. She prefers a typing with a feel to it. Most modern keyboards give her very little tactile feedback.

Is the K95 for her or would you folks recommend another alternative?

Thank you for your assistance,
Jim

Hi Jim.

The K95 uses cherry red switches which I would not recommend for typing as your wife prefers keyboards with a tactile feel. Reds are linear not tactile switches, they are also very light which can make accidental key presses common.

I would recommend cherry blues or browns for typing, both are tactile switches. The blues have great tactile feedback and make a clicky noise- blues are primarily considered a typing switch. Browns are tactile, however they do not make a clicky sound and the tactile bump is less pronounced and a little softer. The browns also have a lighter actuation force or 45g (55g peak) compared to blues which are 50g (60g peak).

Have a look at this fantastic mechanical keyboard guide if you have not done so already, it explains the different key switches. thumb.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

As far as recommending specific keyboards go, if you let me know which country you are in I can help you with choosing a specific keyboard.
Edited by VindalooJim - 4/2/13 at 11:22am
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Intel i7-4770k  Asus Maximus VI Hero [BIOS 1301] (Not bought yet) Gigabyte GTX 780 Ti WindForce ... G.Skill RipJawsX 16GB 1600Mhz [CL8] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial M4 256GB [Firmware 070H]  Crucial M4 256GB [Firmware 070H] Crucial M4 512GB [Firmware 070H] HGST Deskstar 7K4000 7200RPM 4TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM 1TB Western Digital My Passport 2TB [Backup] Western Digital My Passport 2TB [Backup] Samsung SE-208DB/TSBS External USB DVD-RW  
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Corsair H100i /w 2x Noctua NF-F12 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Front Intake x2 Noctua NF-S12B FLX Rear Exhaust Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit  
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 8.1 64-Bit  ASUS VG278H 27" [120Hz 3D] Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23" IPS  Ducky Shine II TKL DK9087 [Cherry MX Browns] 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX860 CoolerMaster 690 III Razer DeathAdder 3.5G/ Razer Naga 2012 Razer Goliathus Extended [Speed Edition] 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 598  Corsair SP2500 2.1  Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 with built in Headphone Amp Razer Mouse Bungee  
OtherOther
Corsair Black Sleeved Cables [Generation 2] BitFenix Black Sleeved Cables 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500K 4.5GHz  Asus P8Z68-V PRO EVGA GTX 570 1.3GB Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB 1600Mhz [CL9] 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB SSD  Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm Pioneer DVD-RW Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit Samsung SyncMaster 22" 1080p SteelSeries 6Gv2 [Cherry Blacks] Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CoolerMaster 690 II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 3.5G/ Naga 2012 Razer Goliathus Speed  Sennheiser HD 202 
Other
Tepig TY Beanie Mascot 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0GHz Asus M4A78-EM Sapphire ATI HD 5670 1GB  Kingston Hyper-X 2GB 1066MHz [CL 5] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB 7200RPM Pioneer DVD-RW Stock AMD Heatsink Windows XP SP3 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 20" TV 720p 60Hz Microsoft 600 Chinese Firecracker Asus TA-K51 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech M100 99p from eBay Wharfedale S20030 2.0 Speakers 
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