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Take a look at my rig and let me know what you think.
I just ordered a 2nd MSI R7870 Hawk and just got concerned...
If this was back in 2006 when i bought the card, I wouldn't have questioned (as why I bought it), but as it is 6.5 years since I bought my PS I thought I would ask your opinion.
As my rig states I have a 750 watt toughpower, 4 rails, and has modular cables. Now this PS is so old, I wasn't able to find it on Thermaltake's website. I was going to post the link...
My 1st worry is not enough amps and will have to verify what they are when i get home.
My 2nd worry is age wear and tear. I did check volts under load (12, 5 etc) and they really do look as I expected.
I was running CF on a pair of 4850s for a few years with out issue and was running a pair of 1900xtx in CF for a short time. BTW in case you forgot, CF implantation sucked bad, back then.
I wasnt planning on buying a new PS as I didnt even consider this to be a possible issue... at first.

Thanks for any input...
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post #2 of 8
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Originally Posted by EyeCU247 View Post

Take a look at my rig and let me know what you think.
I just ordered a 2nd MSI R7870 Hawk and just got concerned...
If this was back in 2006 when i bought the card, I wouldn't have questioned (as why I bought it), but as it is 6.5 years since I bought my PS I thought I would ask your opinion.
As my rig states I have a 750 watt toughpower, 4 rails, and has modular cables. Now this PS is so old, I wasn't able to find it on Thermaltake's website. I was going to post the link...
My 1st worry is not enough amps and will have to verify what they are when i get home.
My 2nd worry is age wear and tear. I did check volts under load (12, 5 etc) and they really do look as I expected.
I was running CF on a pair of 4850s for a few years with out issue and was running a pair of 1900xtx in CF for a short time. BTW in case you forgot, CF implantation sucked bad, back then.
I wasnt planning on buying a new PS as I didnt even consider this to be a possible issue... at first.
Thanks for any input...


It's more than enough for this, and it's still fine.  To start with, check this out to learn just how good PSUs like yours are:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/928113/a-message-to-the-community-on-enthusiast-power-supplies

 

Then check this out:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,7.html

 

With one 7870 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 274W from the wall outlet.  The 7870 itself pulled 127W, so I will add 127W to the 274W in order to add in a 2nd 7870.  This makes the PSU pulling 401W from the wall outlet.  Their CPU was idling, so I have to add about 200W for your CPU which makes the PSU pulling 601W from the wall outlet.  So, if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 601W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is pulling up to 510W from the PSU.

 

So, you're very much in the clear.  ;)


Edited by TwoCables - 1/8/13 at 7:12pm
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I know I am new to this site, but what happened to the other posts? 3 other people posted comments. I can see them when I look through my subscriptions and I see the emails telling they posted, but they are not in the thread on the forum above?

Edit
@TwoCables
Thanks for the link..... but it was one link posted twice. Did you do that on purpose just to drive your point home?
If not, there is still time! post the other link! tongue.gif
Edited by EyeCU247 - 1/8/13 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by EyeCU247 View Post

I know I am new to this site, but what happened to the other posts? 3 other people posted comments. I can see them when I look through my subscriptions and I see the emails telling they posted, but they are not in the thread on the forum above?
Edit
@TwoCables
Thanks for the link..... but it was one link posted twice. Did you do that on purpose just to drive your point home?
If not, there is still time! post the other link! tongue.gif

 

Oops!  I think I didn't press 'c' all the way when I did Ctrl+C for my second link!

 

Here it is:  http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,7.html

 

I updated my post too for the sake of perfection.  It has to be perfect you know.  :)

 

Anyway, I didn't see any other posts nor did I know about any others.  Either they were spambots and were deleted before you saw them, or they could have been rude posts that were deleted.  I'm not sure.

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Oops!  I think I didn't press 'c' all the way when I did Ctrl+C for my second link!

Here it is:  http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,7.html

I updated my post too for the sake of perfection.  It has to be perfect you know.  smile.gif

Anyway, I didn't see any other posts nor did I know about any others.  Either they were spambots and were deleted before you saw them, or they could have been rude posts that were deleted.  I'm not sure.

If you can go to this link then it's not just me....
This is the link used to go back to the this thread with other posts... and my comments to them....


www.overclock.net/t/1347145/old-toughpower-handle-new-crossfirex-build#post_19000030

going to read your other link now. let me know if that link works for you too. it's like another world that split apart from ours at this threads creation. biggrin.gif
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If you can go to this link then it's not just me....
This is the link used to go back to the this thread with other posts... and my comments to them....
www.overclock.net/t/1347145/old-toughpower-handle-new-crossfirex-build#post_19000030
going to read your other link now. let me know if that link works for you too. it's like another world that split apart from ours at this threads creation. biggrin.gif

 

Oh.  You have two different threads with the same title.

 

This one was created first, and I'm not involved in it:  http://www.overclock.net/t/1347145/old-toughpower-handle-new-crossfirex-build

 

This is the one we are in right now, and it was created 1 minute later:  http://www.overclock.net/t/1347145/old-toughpower-handle-new-crossfirex-build

 

That's all that happened.  I added my contribution to the first thread just for the sake of being thorough.  After all, this is public information.

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something screwy is going on here....
Two threads... I updated one, and can't get back to it? If possible, can someone delete this thread? And at the same time make sure the other one is still there and accessible? this is driving me nuts.
Edited by EyeCU247 - 1/31/13 at 7:08pm
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You seem to be handling both threads just fine to me.  :)

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