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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

Those cards require amping to work properly. Your soundcard is fine. Grab yourself the Objective 2 amp. Its cheap and transparent.
Then you set your sound card to 80% volume and use the amp to adjust the volume. My K701s had the same issue below 40% on my card, now, none.

My soundcard says it supports headphones up to 600 ohms and the 598's are only 50. I left the headphones on for a while today just running some music and it cleaned up verrrrry slightly, but hardly noticable. I tried the headphones on my android and it sounded okay. Nothing special (most likely because all my music is illegally downloaded and not perfect quality.)
post #12 of 32
Aren't the 598 pretty similar sounding to the 555 and 595's? Those were very recommended for gaming iirc.

I don't think an amp is really needed for the 598 since impedance is only 50 Ohms. Perhaps Simca or ChineseKiwi would have a better opinion.
Edited by Riou - 1/8/13 at 8:43pm
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My soundcard says it supports headphones up to 600 ohms and the 598's are only 50. I left the headphones on for a while today just running some music and it cleaned up verrrrry slightly, but hardly noticable. I tried the headphones on my android and it sounded okay. Nothing special (most likely because all my music is illegally downloaded and not perfect quality.)

LOL wut you can get full quality with *ujum* public files, try some FLAC´s
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Those cards require amping to work properly. Your soundcard is fine. Grab yourself the Objective 2 amp. Its cheap and transparent.
Then you set your sound card to 80% volume and use the amp to adjust the volume. My K701s had the same issue below 40% on my card, now, none.

Good amp, but it is not needed here. His sound card will work just fine for amplification, plus that type of an amp would not be as well suited for gaming as the sound card he has.
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post #15 of 32
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When i tried them on my android i cranked it to 14 (which i never do, and i listen to my music DAMN loud) and it wasnt loud by any means. I don't even think someone out side could notice the sound leaking.
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Am I the only one that's seeing that gabsonuro doesn't understand what you all mean by gain?

He's using the amp at max settings so it's completely destroying SQ.

The amp needs to be off or on very low gain in the software console. You're pumping too much loudness through the 598s and possibly damaging them. Likely not damaging them with a soundcard, but you really need to lower or turn off the amp completely. You're on full high gain.
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Am I the only one that's seeing that gabsonuro doesn't understand what you all mean by gain?

He's using the amp at max settings so it's completely destroying SQ.

The amp needs to be off or on very low gain in the software console. You're pumping too much loudness through the 598s and possibly damaging them. Likely not damaging them with a soundcard, but you really need to lower or turn off the amp completely. You're on full high gain.

:/ I should have caught that.. Well.. that is what I get for not reading all the posts redface.gif
 
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I recall posting on a previous thread post by you, and mentioning not to get any of the headphones you mentioned for competitive gaming.
Unfortunately you learned the hard way.
A good majority of the users here may know the tech, but don't truly understand the competitive edge and sound positioning.
For gaming, you want to go with a less expensive set. I have heard good things about the DT770.
The trick to finding the right set of headphones is finding the sound signature you are looking for in the game you are playing competitively.
Like I mentioned, I still use my old HD590s for competitive gaming. I have refreshed them every few years with new earpads and a new headband. Makes them feel new again.
I'd check out any of the major gaming forums and ask your question there for a better response.

No, we know audio just fine. We also have enough experience in gaming where having 2 dollar headphones or 20000000 dollar headphones doesn't make a bit of difference so long as you can hear foot steps. I am not joking when I say I have tried numerous headphones, and the ONLY ones that actually improved my game was the razer tiamat, however the sound was so bad that I hated gaming with them. Now why would I want to dump 200 or tiamats or even more money on awful Tritons/turtle beaches/astros when my akg Q701s which everyone rants and raves how bad they are for gaming, work just fine AND let me enjoy my music and movies when I need a break from gaming.

If you want to boast about "competitive gaming", then go look at any pro player in a gaming style format. Chances are they are using crap, or were using crap for their own personal gear. Why? Because they just want to hear foot steps. They could probably do just as well with no audio. Why? Because hundreds upon hundreds of hours of PRACTICE makes perfect, not hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of audio gear.

Let me give you and example, my friend claims that high end headphones are good because you can hear where snipers are shooting from. My response is that I am smart enough to know where the snipers would hide to begin with and I flank them with everything on mute, and guess who beats who in gaming scores and stats?

To end this asinine argument that better headphones make you a better player. I have gotten nukes and MOABS in mw2/3 respectively with no audio, and I have gotten plenty of perfect games in counter strike with absolutely zero audio. If I can do that with no audio, then why do you need to dump hundreds of dollars into audio equipment? Answer me that before you make remarks about how people have no idea what competitive player audio should be like.


Quite honestly, the only real problem here is that there is a hardware issue. Burn in the 598s with pink noise over night, get some flac files from a decent CD, make sure your setting are set up properly in windows and through the sound card settings and the issue should be resolved.
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Am I the only one that's seeing that gabsonuro doesn't understand what you all mean by gain?
He's using the amp at max settings so it's completely destroying SQ.
The amp needs to be off or on very low gain in the software console. You're pumping too much loudness through the 598s and possibly damaging them. Likely not damaging them with a soundcard, but you really need to lower or turn off the amp completely. You're on full high gain.

I thought that might have been the case as well, but he/she does seem to know what the impedance of the 598s though. On the stx sound card, you can set the gain according to the impedance, so I figured it would have been just as obvious to apply the correct gain on this card as well.

OP: Please tell you haven't set the gain for 600 ohms, and that you set it for a much lower impedance.
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I honestly believe that the OP has probably been listening to bass-heavy headphones in the past and expected something similar in the HD598 headphones. The first time I used a pair of ATH-AD700 headphones, I found them very light on bass, but once I played appropriate genres of music, I liked them very much.
People in this forum rag on gaming headsets through thread after thread, but honestly, gaming headsets are designed with mid-range and high frequency reproduction as their priority to aid in pinpointing enemies and to provide directionality. For music, they sound anemic and people write them off as crappy for music when they were never designed for it.
The Sennheiser set is designed for music playback and is an open pair of headphones. I think the op should simply use them for forty to fifty hours and just give them a chance.
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