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post #41 of 74
Initially I thought the VRM cooling would be better than the regular WS, but since there's no heatpipe to help relieve some of the heat from the VRM heatsink I don't think so.

Unless this is compatible with a VRM waterblock....
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post #42 of 74
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This board isn't made for overclocking though, notice that it has two heatsinks for the southbridge and only a simple one for the CPU VRMs.
Also, answering the question in the title of the OP, it's eventually the mother of all Sandy Bridge-E workstation boards (I'd have to check the others available to be sure), but when it comes to overclocking and all the features the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme has, I doubt you can say that this workstation motherboard can cater to everything you might want out of an X79 motherboard.
Their current x79 board with the WS moniker, the P9X79 WS, has absolutely no problem overclocking. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p9x79-deluxe-g1-assassin2-x79-ud5-extreme9,3086-15.html. It has a very similar design, and I'm fairly certain I've seen it beating a RIVE in another review, but I can't find it atm.
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post #43 of 74
This + a Corsair 900D = ultimate build. Would be godly.

It's nice to see that they've finally gotten rid of PCIx1, but I'm still surprised they're shipping USB 2.0 and Sata2. Why can't we have a board that's pure Sata3/USB3. Also, are all those satas really on a single Intel controller? Or are they using the horrible Marvell controller thing.
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This + a Corsair 900D = ultimate build. Would be godly.
It's nice to see that they've finally gotten rid of PCIx1, but I'm still surprised they're shipping USB 2.0 and Sata2. Why can't we have a board that's pure Sata3/USB3. Also, are all those satas really on a single Intel controller? Or are they using the horrible Marvell controller thing.

The SATA2 comes from the x79 chipset. Manufacturers can't do anything to change that fact, and Intel isn't going to do a refresh of the x79 chipset anytime soon, if at all.

USB 3.0 takes up significant amounts of die space on the chipset, and most things don't benefit from USB 3.0 (i.e. mice, keyboards, printers, etc). Extra USB 3.0 controllers cost extra money. The x79 chipset does not have any native USB 3.0 capabilities, only USB 2.0. How many flash drives and external hard drives do you plan on plugging into your computer?
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post #45 of 74
They basically combined the WS and the MSI Big Bang. I wouldn't be surprised if they price this in the $450 region. The board isn't worth it, imo.

The x79 champion is a better bang for buck than this board, but here I am defending my own product rolleyes.gif 12 usb 3.0 ports ain't nothing to sneeze at biggrin.gif
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It supports up to 128 GB of RAM ? I wasn't aware that there already were 16 GB DIMMs available.
Two Intel Ethernet controllers is definitely a good thing.
It still only has two SATA 6 Gb/s coming from the southbridge, the other four come from a separate controller(s), so that is basically the same arrangement most X79 based motherboard have today (though most only have two extra 6 Gb/s ports and this one has four).
This board isn't made for overclocking though, notice that it has two heatsinks for the southbridge and only a simple one for the CPU VRMs.

there are 16GB DIMM ECC modules. They are server memory only.

EDIT: The picture shows the description of the RAM, ECC or non- ECC , un-buffered modules only. So the 16GB DIMM modules can be ECC, just un-buffered. You could techinically use server memory for anything with this board, RAMDisk for example.

Thanks for the info! Didn't know such a capacity existed already. Rep+

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It supports up to 128 GB of RAM ? I wasn't aware that there already were 16 GB DIMMs available.
Two Intel Ethernet controllers is definitely a good thing.
It still only has two SATA 6 Gb/s coming from the southbridge, the other four come from a separate controller(s), so that is basically the same arrangement most X79 based motherboard have today (though most only have two extra 6 Gb/s ports and this one has four).
This board isn't made for overclocking though, notice that it has two heatsinks for the southbridge and only a simple one for the CPU VRMs.
Also, answering the question in the title of the OP, eventually the mother of all Sandy Bridge-E workstation boards, but when it comes to overclocking and all the features the ASUS Rampage IV Extreme has, I doubt you say that this workstation motherboard can cater to everything you might want out of an X79 motherboard.

They're actually heatsinks with fins though, not just flashy looking pieces of metal filled with leds.

Does any X79 based motherboard actually come with "flashy looking pieces of metal filled with leds" ?

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It supports up to 128 GB of RAM ? I wasn't aware that there already were 16 GB DIMMs available.
There aren't any 16GB DIMMs that aren't registered.

Thanks!

Oh, by the way, to have SAS ports it wouldn't be based on X79, even though they could have done like Gigabyte and still put X79 on the name.

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It supports up to 128 GB of RAM ? I wasn't aware that there already were 16 GB DIMMs available.

16GiB + registered DIMMs have been around forever, and this board supports Xeons that can use them.

Also, 16GiB unbuffered DIMMs aren't far off, and Ivy-E should officially support those.
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This board isn't made for overclocking though, notice that it has two heatsinks for the southbridge and only a simple one for the CPU VRMs.

Look again. Those are real fins on those heatsinks and this board probably has more VRM sink area than any other LGA-2011 board.


What do you mean by forever ? Months, years ?

As to the fins, I think you only have to look at Asus other offerings to see that plenty of their X79 motherboards have more cooling capacity.

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/RAMPAGE_IV_EXTREME/

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/RAMPAGE_IV_FORMULA/

http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_2011/SABERTOOTH_X79/ (even though you can't see them, take it from me, I have one of these, a heapipe goes from the VRM heatsink to under that plastic shell near the rear panel and there are some real fins there.) thumb.gif

Anyway, my point was that this board was not meant for overclocking, hence the comparison between the two heatpipes and fins coming from the southbridge, which seems like an exaggeration given the chip's TDP, compared to the VRM's fin array. Hence, it seems like they are prioritizing the stability of the platform, especially when having lots of storage operations going on, compared to enabling great overclocking feats, and that is why I said it probably isn't the "Mother of all Sandy Bridge-E boards", also considering it doesn't have all the features an X79 motherboard could have, in comparison with, for example, their own RIVE.
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Finally, an enthusiast board with Intel NICs and not crapteks.
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Finally, an enthusiast board with Intel NICs and not crapteks.

Manufacturers have been transitioning to Intel NICs on their enthusiast setups for a while now, and also on their mid-range boards as well. It's hardly a new or unique feature.
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Finally, an enthusiast board with Intel NICs and not crapteks.

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Finally, an enthusiast board with Intel NICs and not crapteks.

Manufacturers have been transitioning to Intel NICs on their enthusiast setups for a while now, and also on their mid-range boards as well. It's hardly a new or unique feature.

To be accurate, as far as I know, all X79 based motherboards come with an Intel NIC, I'm not sure, but I suspect Intel makes it mandatory, which does give the platform extra value for money, considering they do cost more than mainstream 6 and 7 series motherboards. The thing is, those X79 motherboards that come with two NICs, the other one is usually from Realtek, so having both of them be Intel is definitely a good thing (more expensive too, but that is a given).
 
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I like using the 2nd Intel NIC for VMs, but I think I'm going to end up looking for an add-in card for multiple VMs.

I don't do any professional work with my WS. I picked it up because I wanted to learn more about VMs, networking (virtual and physical), RAID, etc on my own in addition to wanting to invest in high-end platform that'll last me a good long while (I figure 2014-15). The WS advertises the widest compatibility out there so I figured why not. It's a premium board and has great overclocking features. Just because it doesn't wear a ROG badge doesn't mean it's not a great overclocker. It mostly lacks the sub-zero OC'ing options and isn't as fleshed out when it comes to power delivery options from what I can tell.
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