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Intel is capable of squeezing a 50% more bandwidth from a dualchannel setup. AMD just needs to improve the IMCs.
Absolutely. biggrin.gif
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GREAT news for AMD's Richland. It turns out that leaked A10-6700 APU (Richland) benchmarks are indeed 30% faster than Trinity.

http://wccftech.com/amd-a10-6700-gpu-performance-exposed-80-faster-core-i53570k-20-a105800k-3dmark-11-fire-strike/

Color me impressed and wrong.
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GREAT news for AMD's Richland. It turns out that leaked A10-6700 APU (Richland) benchmarks are indeed 30% faster than Trinity.

http://wccftech.com/amd-a10-6700-gpu-performance-exposed-80-faster-core-i53570k-20-a105800k-3dmark-11-fire-strike/

Color me impressed and wrong.

Looks good, but I will still wait for a better source before I believe it..
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The testing is not complete so very suspect. I am wondering if they did the testing why we did not see the Physics scores for those tests to get a feel for the CPU side...
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If there is a 30% increase in 3dmark11 I'm curious to know where it comes from. The article referenced by wccftech http://www.expreview.com/24493.html (chinese) ...says its the same graphics core as trinity, so on the GPU side of things, the only difference we know of is a 5% clock speed increase. The other 25%? hmm, well...perhaps better memory bandwidth available to the gpu? I cant think of any other factor.
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This is pure conjecture, but AMD seems to be fixing specific areas of original Bulldozer at a time.

BD -> PD: fix FPU
PD-> PD 2.0: improve IMC
PD 2.0 -> Steamroller: Improve front end

As for the numbers AMD is throwing around with % increase, it's the same crap that Intel does. "We increased our 3dmark score by 40% so we're just going to call our new chip up to 40% faster and tack on a 5% to 10% faster CPU and just not talk about that."

But you guys are missing the big white elephant in the room. AMD increased clock speed by 10% just because 32nm got better. Intel has spent a lot of time and money to get a 3% to 7% performance increase out of Intel Bridge evolution via Haswell. Richland is going to close the CPU gap and it's just a rebrand with higher clocks. I don't know how that isn't a bigger deal. If AMD released a new architecture and it was only barely faster than the old one, and Intel released new parts with a clock speed bump bigger than AMD"s change in performance, the internet would be full of "LOL AMD IS DOOMED SELL UR STOCK WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THERES A MONOPOLY!?!?!?!?"

Amd beat Haswell's CPU gains (assuming Tom's hardware is correct) with significantly less resources.
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If there is a 30% increase in 3dmark11 I'm curious to know where it comes from. The article referenced by wccftech http://www.expreview.com/24493.html (chinese) ...says its the same graphics core as trinity, so on the GPU side of things, the only difference we know of is a 5% clock speed increase. The other 25%? hmm, well...perhaps better memory bandwidth available to the gpu? I cant think of any other factor.

It is a head-scratcher. Maybe next gen GPU improvements. Does more per clock.
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It is a head-scratcher. Maybe next gen GPU improvements. Does more per clock.

Apparently they use VLIW4-based graphics, so there is only so much you can do. I pray to the Heavens that the improvements come from the IMC!!

Edit: 30% faster GPU!! Look at those 3DMark results O__O

Boy Kaveri is going to be soooo sweet smile.gif
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Intel finally caught up on their GPU department to Llano and AMD blew them away again biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif
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GREAT news for AMD's Richland. It turns out that leaked A10-6700 APU (Richland) benchmarks are indeed 30% faster than Trinity.

http://wccftech.com/amd-a10-6700-gpu-performance-exposed-80-faster-core-i53570k-20-a105800k-3dmark-11-fire-strike/

Color me impressed and wrong.

Color me skeptical. It's plausible for 15% , we saw that from Piledriver fixing Bulldozer's scheduler.

VLIW4 is still HD6xxx series
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