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So, what you're saying is that the integrated Radeon HD 8670D graphics chip is supposed to be about equal to a dedicated Radeon HD 7750 chip in terms of overall performance, or... are you saying that the A10-6800K w/ the Radeon HD 8670D IGP can be paired in Hybrid CrossFire with an HD 7750 dedicated GPU?
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Go heads to heads means equal with a HD7750
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I have an AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE CPU @ 3.4GHz stock speed paired with an AMD Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 dedicated GPU. How much better or worse will the AMD A10-6800K with the AMD Radeon HD 8670D IGP be in comparison to my Phenom II X4 965 BE/Radeon HD 6770 setup in terms of gaming?

I would say the cpu would be about the same as your 965, maybe slightly faster, but if it is its nothing that you couldn't achieve through a modest OC. Graphics wise is another question altogether, although I would be surprised if it matched, much less beat your 6770. However AMD is supposed to be supporting socket FM2 in the future so Kaveri may give you a sizable boost if you go that route, alternatively if you already have an AM3+ mobo steamroller is "supposed" to be AM3+ compatible, but we wont know until we get some more information. Hope this helped!
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I agree, wait for kaveri...you dont want to buy a bunch of new hardware only to have similar performance with the old setup
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It's been said to have performance like a 7750 ==
Anyway, Kaveri won't be until the end of the year and i really need a new build soon so i'm gunning for richland but if it's not all that much faster i will grab trinity at cut prices (I doubt it won't be all that much faster)
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It's been said to have performance like a 7750 ==
Anyway, Kaveri won't be until the end of the year and i really need a new build soon so i'm gunning for richland but if it's not all that much faster i will grab trinity at cut prices (I doubt it won't be all that much faster)
It wont be able to match a 7750 in terms of performance, simply because it is rumored to only have 384 SPU's compared to the 7750's 512 SPU's. It might have the same core performance if that's what you are saying. Tho again it's still crippled by desktop DDR3 speeds, even with the best memory you'll be lucky to get 2800MHz. Which is far off the effective 4500MHz of a stock 7750. If AMD uses HD 7000 architecture in Richland, we could see more shaders then 384. No one knows for sure until release day.
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It wont be able to match a 7750 in terms of performance, simply because it only has 384 SPU's compared to the 7750's 512 SPU's. It might have the same core performance if that's what you are saying. Tho again it's still crippled by desktop DDR3 speeds, even with the best memory you'll be lucky to get 2800MHz. Which is far off the effective 4500MHz of a stock 7750.

Well, it'll at least perform better than the A10-5800K's IGP, that's for sure smile.gif How MUCH better has yet to be seen.
   
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Isn't A10-6800k (the desktop part) expected in March 19? That's that the wikipedia source suggests.
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Isn't A10-6800k (the desktop part) expected in March 19? That's that the wikipedia source suggests.

That's what I've heard from certain sources, but I've also heard from other sources that it could be coming out in June of this year. I'm really hoping that it comes out in March though!
   
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Technically, the A10-6800k can outperform the 7750 video card.
Remember, by default the 7750 uses DDR3, not GDDR5; only the more expensive models of 7750 ship with that.
You don't need GDDR5 for 720P gaming, you do need it for 1080P and above.
Though the A10-68000k has 384 cores and the 7750 has 512 cores; you the performance does not really scale up in this type of comparison.
Case and point, the A8-5600k is almost as fast as the A10-5800k and has 256 cores; it might be 4 FPS slower on average compared to A10-5800k.
Technically, APU should have a natural advantage to render more FPS as long as memory bandwidth is not an issue.
If you want best FPS for 720P then get DDR 1600 with CAS 7
If you want best FPS for 1080P then get DDR 2133 with lowest CAS.
Don't expect A10-6800k to be sufficient for most 1080p games; will work on many but on low settings.
Expect the APU to hit prime time come DDR4; then there won't be as nearly of a point of getting GPU.
Also the reason the A10-6800k is faster than 7750 besides of all the benefits that it is on 1 die, the cores are not the same as those in 7750; AMD made some updates they are more efficient.
The real question is can you get 20-40% improvement on the A8-6600k, or did AMD mostly find a way to use up the mostly unused cores in the A10-5800k.
There is a 100mhz GPU higher clock which can't hurt.
Overclocking the GPU out of this by another 100-150 mhz would yield enough power for ALL games 720p HIGH-ULTRA settings, 1080p Low - Medium.
When DDR4 comes out, ADD one the the quality.
DDR4 for AMD will hit Q4 2014, and that will be the next AMD motherboard to get.
By 2014, AMD will have nearly completely cough in terms of CPU performance (Floating Point) for games.
Bar none, A10-6800k best/most affordable CPU for DolphinEMU.
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