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post #11 of 29
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I've already ruled out that I'm not getting a DA. I know it's a very popular mice. My friend just bought one a few months back, and I've tried it but I just did not like how it felt with me.
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by Ratooth View Post

Thanks for your replies.

Laser:
-G9X
(+) Logitech durability and customer service
(+) adjustable grips though I'll probably mostly be using the wide grip most of the time
*not sure about:
(-) scroll wheel quality. Because of the tilting feature, the scroll wheel on my G500 feels loose. I was never able to reliably press it down.
(-) since I've yet to demo one, judging from the looks I'm not sure if I'll dig the shape

From you list quoted, I can say:
durability is high
adjustable grips- I planned to use the wide grip also, but to my surprise I ended up liking the other one better ! (I heard others say the same thing)
scroll wheel- has two adjustments fast and slow- fast is normal to push- slow is stiff to push
shape- was my main concern also before buying.....OMG I will never love another mouse again! The shape is simply the best thing about this mouse. I only love my woman better.

I personally do not use the extra weights in the mouse. Empty if feels like the same weight as my old mx518 which seems fine to me. I tried the weights and really did not like them.

I attached some photos with my old mx518 and performance MX sitting next to the G9x. It might give you a better idea of the size. Surprising even though I have large hands, I found that this smaller mouse actually easier on my hand over long gaming periods.


Regardless what mouse you choose, I hope you are satisfied with your purchase. thumb.gif



     
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Samsung 500gb SSD M$ 10 Asus ROG PG348Q Corsair 
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Case Labs 
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QX9650 EP45-UD3P Gygabyte XFX 5770 4x1gb Gskill  
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post #13 of 29
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I'm a little embarrass to say, but I think I'm almost back to square one. Just yesterday I was sure I was set on either the G400 or Zowie EC2 eVo. I was weighing the pros and cons between the two. From what I'm looking for in a mouse, all signs pretty much point to the G400--more programmable buttons, DPI settings (although 800 DPI is its optimal), great support, price. The only thing that stopping me from getting one is that I think the Zowie may be more comfortable to me.

Then I was reading and just found out that the A9500 on the Sensei tracks just as well on some cloth pads as it does on hard pads. This really makes me want to reconsider. But in all honesty though, I think I may be too caught up about the slight performance differences between the two sensors. AFIAK the only difference between those 'flawless' optical sensors and the laser ones found on the Sensei and logitechs is a small 5-10% positive acceleration.

In any case, right now I'm giving the Savu (which also has one of those 'perfect' sensors IIRC) another go around. Since it only has 4 preset DPI settings (400, 800, 1600, 4000) I'm mainly using it at 800 DPI which should give me a good prelude to the G400 if I choose to go that route. Even though I prefer to palm grip my mice, I find that the Savu isn't too bad once I use a hybrid palm/fingertip grip.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by zulk View Post

Not sure if the a9500 has any prediction whatsoever. :s
Minimum prediction would be those pixart 3305 sensors they have some little prediction in them, which probably would not bother anybody in game unless he/she has ocd.

You could try the roccat kone pure I think it looks way better than the regular kone and its smaller and lighter as well if that is suits you.

The A9500 has negative acceleration on black surfaces and positive acceleration on white/gray/bright surfaces. It's hardly noticable. I didn't notice until someone told me. I own both Sensei's.
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Originally Posted by zulk View Post

I think the deathadder has better components inside compared to the g400, not too sure but what IM sure of is the fact that entry level logitechs have cheap hardware.

The Deathadder 2013 has higher quality components than most other mainstream mice (high quality 7n switches, real rubber finger rests, an upgraded laser from the standard s3888, and actually a quite nice, light, malleable braided cable). I know the OP has ruled out the DA, but the DA2013 is by far the greatest mouse I've ever owned. I was DYING to replace my Sensei which I thought would be impossible as the Sensei was the best mouse I'd ever used, because I hated the shiny metal top even though I loved the mouse, and my Sensei [RAW] because it was not the same mouse as the Sensei at all; very different characteristics. I ordered a DA2013 just to replace my Black Edition for funzies, and I was absolutely blown away at how amazing the 2013 is. Razer really outdid themselves.

That being said, the normal Sensei is still second best IMO. Lots of people praise the Zowie AM, but their support is god awful, so you gotta hope you don't get a lemon.
Edited by GridIroN - 1/11/13 at 12:47pm
post #15 of 29

A9500 has slight negative and positive acceleration regardless of surface color or material.   Useable, just depends on what you want in a mouse.

post #16 of 29
Honestly compared to optical they tend to feel a bit floaty. Today it felt that way while playing go and switching between am and sensei alternating rounds :/
post #17 of 29

Just optical is a generalization.  There are many different sensor architectures of both VCSEL and LED illumination.

post #18 of 29
Thread Starter 
After much deliberation I've decided not stick with lasers and go back to optical. Main reason for this is because I just felt like I had better control with them versus the laser mice I was using. And I am 90% sure that I will go with the G400, which is a little funny because the G400 was sorta my fallback choice all along. Reasons why I chose it over the Zowie is because IMO the G400 is more versatile. I see the Zowie primarily as a LAN FPS mice, whereas the G400 can tackle more genres with the ability for macros and 3 extra buttons. Couple that with a more consistent build quality, cheaper price, and good warranty (should I ever need it which I never hope I do), I think the choice was clear.

Moving along, the next item I need to get is a new cloth mousepad. I've always used those small, cheap generic cloth pads so don't have much experience with 'gaming grade' pads. In terms of speed, I'm looking for one that's medium quick. In other words, on a scale from 1-10, 1 being super slow and 10 being super slick, I'm looking at about a 7. Any recommendations?
Edited by Ratooth - 1/13/13 at 6:04pm
post #19 of 29
If you want really control I would say pick Razer Goliathus Control Gaming Mouse Pad its like a 8 wink.gif from a scale from 1 to 10.
Or pick a steelserie Qck wich is like a 6.

So If you dont like the razer logo and want a black mouse pad just pick the Qck.
Aswell just like the logitech g400 you would choose great value for money.
Edited by CtrlAltel1te - 1/13/13 at 2:42pm
post #20 of 29
Thread Starter 
The Qck and the Goliathus pads seem to be among the most popular and are the front-runners in my choice. In terms of durability, which surface is more likely to last longer?
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