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post #11 of 57
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Originally Posted by carmas View Post

It's pure speculation, but still interesting. I really hope Haswell will be a good overclocker, since I skipped Ivy Bridge.

Yay!
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Intel doesnt have to unlock bclk overclocking again. All they have to do is offer an I3 K model and everyone will be happy again. 5ghz haswell I3 should put a hurting on the 6300

Read the article, they don't do this for the happiness of their consumers. biggrin.gif
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post #12 of 57
The best thing about that article is that it linked to real world tech's write-up about Haswell tongue.gif I need to read it.
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post #13 of 57
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Intel doesnt have to unlock bclk overclocking again. All they have to do is offer an I3 K model and everyone will be happy again. 5ghz haswell I3 should put a hurting on the 6300

I would really, really, really like an unlocked i3...
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post #14 of 57
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Originally Posted by xoleras 
It isn't speculation. Read the preview at anandtech - the haswell will indeed have bclk and multiplier overclocking, at least with some model variants.. This was also hinted at in the reddit AMA (with an intel engineer)
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Originally Posted by spuppy 
According to the source linked in the article, the uncore is indeed being decoupled from the CPU core. Whether they artificially 'lock' it another way, who can say. But an Intel engineer also hinted at Haswell being a good overclocker on Reddit as well, so I guess we'll see!

Thank you for the correction guys, I wasn't aware that there were other previews and hints at it. thumb.gif It is very good news.
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post #15 of 57
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I would really, really, really like an unlocked i3...

Me too. Would be the ultimate budget gamer chip unless intel did something stupid and priced it at like 179
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i have a little speculation of my own on the BCLK unlocked overclocking. not long ago Arctic Iaccidentally leaked the Haswell CPU line with a list of compatible CPUs with their coolers.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
my speculation is that maybe intel are playing sneaky with the market. They will release the i7-4770K as both multiplier and BCLK unlocked while the i5-4570K and the i7-4670K would be only Multiplier unlocked, and possibly that the 4770k would be like 5% better in overclocking including the BCLK abilities. (i.e. the 4770k would be primarily for Enthusiast who want it all and for Liquid Nitrogen overclockers for record braking)

Though, the equally possible thing to happen is that the i7-4770K would be to the i7-4670k the same as the 2700k was to the 2600k. (since we didn't have an ivy 2700k version intel would make one on Haswell)
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post #17 of 57
I thought Haswell was supposed to have BCLK straps like SB-E, rather than free reign when it comes to BCLK like Nehalem. Uncore isn't the only thing causing problems.
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i have a little speculation of my own on the BCLK unlocked overclocking. not long ago Arctic Iaccidentally leaked the Haswell CPU line with a list of compatible CPUs with their coolers.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
my speculation is that maybe intel are playing sneaky with the market. They will release the i7-4770K as both multiplier and BCLK unlocked while the i5-4570K and the i7-4670K would be only Multiplier unlocked, and possibly that the 4770k would be like 5% better in overclocking including the BCLK abilities. (i.e. the 4770k would be primarily for Enthusiast who want it all and for Liquid Nitrogen overclockers for record braking)

Though, the equally possible thing to happen is that the i7-4770K would be to the i7-4670k the same as the 2700k was to the 2600k. (since we didn't have an ivy 2700k version intel would make one on Haswell)
That would be a pretty smart move.
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post #18 of 57
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Me too. Would be the ultimate budget gamer chip unless intel did something stupid and priced it at like 179

Not a chance in heck of an unlocked i3. That would tear i5 sales to SHREDS.

Also, in the Intel engineers AMA on reddit, he said that if you like overclocking, Haswell has something special in store for you. He doesn't say what it is though, and also mentions that Anand missed it in his review. I may be misquoting, but it was something to that effect.
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post #19 of 57
If the BCLK is still provides the PCI-E clock (and there is good reason that Intel will continue tying it together), then we won't get BCLK overclocking. They might feature BCLK straps like is found on 2011, but that's it.

Too many "ifs" and "buts" and an overly optimistic view, all while forgetting some key reasons why the BCLK can't be adjusted.
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post #20 of 57
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I would really, really, really like an unlocked i3...

I would really like an unlocked Xeon with assloads of cores.
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