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I thought Haswell was supposed to have BCLK straps like SB-E, rather than free reign when it comes to BCLK like Nehalem. Uncore isn't the only thing causing problems.

That's what I heard too. To have fine-grain control of the base clock, EVERYTHING that bases its speed off of the base clock needs a full PLL generator (expensive, complex and not power efficient). Haswell will most likely have straps, which means non-K CPUs can overclock, but the overclocking ranges/options will be crude and limited.

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Also, in the Intel engineers AMA on reddit, he said that if you like overclocking, Haswell has something special in store for you. He doesn't say what it is though, and also mentions that Anand missed it in his review. I may be misquoting, but it was something to that effect.

If I remember correctly, he said that Anand hinted or briefly mentioned it in his article, but you had to read carefully to find it.
 
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Oh yea! I hate not being able to push more than 2133MHz the ram simply due to a multi limitation.

Only multi overclocking is a child game. I remember spending countless minutes raising the BCLK. Was fun though.
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That's what I heard too. To have fine-grain control of the base clock, EVERYTHING that bases its speed off of the base clock needs a full PLL generator (expensive, complex and not power efficient). Haswell will most likely have straps, which means non-K CPUs can overclock, but the overclocking ranges/options will be crude and limited.

They may lock it out of low range models as well, like they did on x79 Xeons. Which completely screwed over EVGA on their SR-X.
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I would really like an unlocked Xeon with assloads of cores.

Thank you. 8-core + HT Ivy Xeon @ 4.5-5.0ghz. wubsmiley.gif
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They may lock it out of low range models as well, like they did on x79 Xeons. Which completely screwed over EVGA on their SR-X.

Aye. Evga with the SR-x being screwed by Intel and Nvidia disabling voltage control hit the enthusiast arm of Evga hard.
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I would really like an unlocked Xeon with assloads of cores.

Yessssssssssssss. OMG I want this so bad!
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Not a chance in heck of an unlocked i3. That would tear i5 sales to SHREDS.

Also, in the Intel engineers AMA on reddit, he said that if you like overclocking, Haswell has something special in store for you. He doesn't say what it is though, and also mentions that Anand missed it in his review. I may be misquoting, but it was something to that effect.

thats like saying an i3 2100 would tear the 2500 non k to shreds. i5 is still a quad core and i3 is a dual... no matter the clock speed.speed
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thats like saying an i3 2100 would tear the 2500 non k to shreds. i5 is still a quad core and i3 is a dual... no matter the clock speed.speed
Yeah, but I bet over 30% of the average 3570k buyers (perhaps not OCN because we're crazy) would buy whatever the benchmarks told them to, and gaming benchmarks would make an unlocked i3 perform great in most gaming benchmarks and be hands down the champion if you care about cost (which most people do). Also, depending on how they are binned, I wouldn't be surprised to see an i3k clock better than an i5k due to the thermal advantage of being a dual core. Either way, it won't happen.

I would rather see the unlocked xeons across the price range. I've always wanted to do an SR-X or SR-2 build, but the OC limitations of xeons turned me off of it.
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i3 unlocked jesus wud be amazing
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thats like saying an i3 2100 would tear the 2500 non k to shreds. i5 is still a quad core and i3 is a dual... no matter the clock speed.speed

There won`t be any dual core as far as I know with haswell in the i3/i5/i7. Pentium, celeron, etc. will.

The point of i5 is that it is cheaper but does not have HT but can overclock like a i7.
If a i3 can overclock like any of the i5 and i7, you remove the point of buying a i5 (being cheaper).
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