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Hello guys,

I'm thinking of doing some modding of my mice, starting with basic repair of a broken switch and depending on how well I do building a Kinzuadder.
Now I've run into the trouble of finding a vendor for said switches. I've seen Omron switches available on Ebay in China, but is that reliable? Does anyone know a European (preferably German) retailer who sells them?
Also the switch I need to replace is the one for scroll wheel click, which is a smaller, 2 pin, switch. I know the mainbuttons are Omron D2FC-F-7N, but can someone tell me the name of that smaller switch? I tried the search here but didn't come up with the name for that one.

Last but not least: I've seen in the Kinzuader threads that you need to connect the DA sensor PCB with the Kinzu's button PCB (don't know if these are the correct terms...) but I didn't find a drawing which pins need to be connected with which. Can someone help me out there too?

EDIT: The switch for scroll wheel click looks like the one in the WMO


Edited by Ino. - 1/11/13 at 6:40am
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post #2 of 6
http://www.mouser.com/

You can change country's of origin so I assume they ship practically everywhere.

Creating a kinzuadder is a very tough beast. The Deathadder PCB is actually 2 pcb's with a ribbon wire connecting them. The top pcb is locked into the shell so you have a good chance of severing the ribbon wire when taking it apart (I know I did). Soldering mouse switches is relatively easy and can be done with someone that's all thumbs. However, soldering on a ribbon cable requires precision and probably an actual solder gun with a very precise tip (You can do mouse buttons with just a desoldering iron).

You can see the ribbon cables in the picture above. Each is a 5-wire ribbon cable and the exposed metal you see is actually very delicate copper that tears easily. When you connect one ribbon cable to another pcb, you have to connect each wire individually and make sure that they do NOT connect through solder: a very hard task if you notice how very close they are.

I suggest you practice on a few cheaper mice first before spending the 90+ bucks it takes to buy a deathadder and kinzu separately.

I also suggest getting a kinzu v2 normal instead of a v2 pro. v2 Pro's are all glossy; many prefer rubberized grips. Other than that the main difference is the buttons (Non-omrons) and the feet (non-teflon). Both can be easily replaced for a buck each.
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http://www.mouser.com/

You can change country's of origin so I assume they ship practically everywhere.

Creating a kinzuadder is a very tough beast. The Deathadder PCB is actually 2 pcb's with a ribbon wire connecting them. The top pcb is locked into the shell so you have a good chance of severing the ribbon wire when taking it apart (I know I did). Soldering mouse switches is relatively easy and can be done with someone that's all thumbs. However, soldering on a ribbon cable requires precision and probably an actual solder gun with a very precise tip (You can do mouse buttons with just a desoldering iron).

You can see the ribbon cables in the picture above. Each is a 5-wire ribbon cable and the exposed metal you see is actually very delicate copper that tears easily. When you connect one ribbon cable to another pcb, you have to connect each wire individually and make sure that they do NOT connect through solder: a very hard task if you notice how very close they are.

I suggest you practice on a few cheaper mice first before spending the 90+ bucks it takes to buy a deathadder and kinzu separately.

I also suggest getting a kinzu v2 normal instead of a v2 pro. v2 Pro's are all glossy; many prefer rubberized grips. Other than that the main difference is the buttons (Non-omrons) and the feet (non-teflon). Both can be easily replaced for a buck each.

Hey, thanks for the reply! I already checked mouser.com, but I couldn't find the D2FC-F-7N there. I think I'm going to order from Ebay then.
I had no problem opening the DA, and the ribbon is still intact and all. But I still don't know which pins/cables/contacts need to be connected to which on the PCB of the Kinzu. Isn't there an explanation somewhere? I didn't find any by searching, but it seems to me that a few guys here have already built a Kinzuadder.

Btw: if no one knows the name of the small switch used for mouse3, does someone know if it can be found in other mice? I don't own any old Microsoft mice, but we have a few older Logitechs and other cheap crap at work. I just don't want to open them all up biggrin.gif
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your's is a DA rev.3 if you have the 2-pin scrollwheel switch.
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Wow, thanks! Do you know the name of the 2-pin scroll wheel switch too?

Btw: was dagegen wenn ich dir bei weiteren Fragen PNs schicke?
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nope, dunno the name.

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