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Looks like a great build! thumb.gif For power, you can do what I did and just salvage a power button from an old case. For power you can use a 8 pin splitter like THIS ONE. I'm also not sure why you need so much RAM and ECC. Is that for your work? For folding, 32 GB (16 x 2GB) of non-ECC RAM is fine. Good luck!
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I'm also not sure why you need so much RAM and ECC. Is that for your work?

He's a computational biologist.

Will the Noctua NH-U9DO fit in a 4U case?

EDIT: 5" HSF + Mobo + risers should with 7".
Edited by DuckieHo - 1/14/13 at 8:33pm
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He's a computational biologist.

Will the Noctua NH-U9DO fit in a 4U case?

EDIT: 5" HSF + Mobo + risers should with 7".

According to the 'building a 2p-4p guide, that's the recommended configuration. The other thing I liked about the server case was not turning the board on its side. Those coolers are large, prefer keeping them vertical.
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According to the 'building a 2p-4p guide, that's the recommended configuration. The other thing I liked about the server case was not turning the board on its side. Those coolers are large, prefer keeping them vertical.

Almost all server cases have the mobo laying horizontal. wink.gif

What memory are you getting?


You are just getting a single consumer PSU? You don't need redundent server PSUs? Basically, how long is a run and what happens if you system crashes.... do you lose a week or more of work? Also, how long can the system be down before people get angry?
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Almost all server cases have the mobo laying horizontal. wink.gif

What memory are you getting?


You are just getting a single consumer PSU? You don't need redundent server PSUs? Basically, how long is a run and what happens if you system crashes.... do you lose a week or more of work? Also, how long can the system be down before people get angry?

Wait, what do I do with that vertical rail kit??? tongue.gif
FEDEX ground is showing delivery of the fans this Friday. A week seems like a long time for FEDEX and I'm not very patient.

There's a slight issue with deciding about memory. Ideally you populate all 16 DIMM's for best performance, right? I would like to start with 64gb and see how my application performs. Rumor is it can require 128gb to avoid swapping to disk.So 'just in case' I'll want to use ECC registered memory. Maybe just buy 8 x 8gb and I won't get the fully interleaved memory performance but retain the upgrade option? Or stick to 64gb and put in a SSD drive as swap? I'm thinking the latter since I have a lot of I/O with all that data.

I'm OK with the single PSU. This is a research machine, and if it goes down it really affects only me. A run will take ~1.5-2 days per sample, but that's highly variable and I won't know exactly until I run some tests.

I do 90% of my high-end computation using distributed computing in the Amazon EC2 environment. The issue that resulted in setting up this server is that there is clinical data involved and until their IT department completes with their security review of AWS, I need to keep the analysis in-house.
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There's a slight issue with deciding about memory. Ideally you populate all 16 DIMM's for best performance, right? I would like to start with 64gb and see how my application performs. Rumor is it can require 128gb to avoid swapping to disk.So 'just in case' I'll want to use ECC registered memory. Maybe just buy 8 x 8gb and I won't get the fully interleaved memory performance but retain the upgrade option? Or stick to 64gb and put in a SSD drive as swap? I'm thinking the latter since I have a lot of I/O with all that data.

I'm OK with the single PSU. This is a research machine, and if it goes down it really affects only me. A run will take ~1.5-2 days per sample, but that's highly variable and I won't know exactly until I run some tests.
With larger amounts of memory in servers... things can get a bit more complicated than desktops.

First, you will need registered memory if you ever want to get 16GB DIMMs.

Each CPU only has 4 DIMM slots? If so, you probably won't registered memory if you plan to populate with smaller sizes. Each IMC should easily drive just 4 DIMMs.

You most likely want ECC though since you plan to run 64GB+ on workloads 24hr+ continous workloads.

128GB vs 64GB vs 64GB+SSD depends on the application and datasets.

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I do 90% of my high-end computation using distributed computing in the Amazon EC2 environment. The issue that resulted in setting up this server is that there is clinical data involved and until their IT department completes with their security review of AWS, I need to keep the analysis in-house.
Makes sense, medical data is tricky.
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Case and the eps to 8 pin cable just arrived. Now waiting for those CPU coolers is going to make me nuts!
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Case and the eps to 8 pin cable just arrived. Now waiting for those CPU coolers is going to make me nuts!

Just double check you have the right adapter?

8-pin PCIe to 8-pin EPS, right?
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Just double check you have the right adapter?

8-pin PCIe to 8-pin EPS, right?

Ugh, they shipped the wrong one. It's an 8-pin EPS to 4 pin P4/LP4. Back it goes.

That case is a monster. Pretty good deal for $89. Except of course none of the standard mounting holes line up with the board.
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Ugh, they shipped the wrong one. It's an 8-pin EPS to 4 pin P4/LP4. Back it goes.

That case is a monster. Pretty good deal for $89. Except of course none of the standard mounting holes line up with the board.

Make double sure of what you order... 8-pin PCIe to 8-pin EPS is uncommon.


Depends on what standards. tongue.gif

You have a SWTX mobo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWTX
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According to Supermicro tech support, SWTX motherboards are not compatible with ATX/EATX cases because of their size and mounting scheme. Likewise, ATX motherboards are not compatible with SWTX cases
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