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post #11 of 38
You hear wayy too many things.
Here's my current 965 OC. Notice the fsb is at 267.
http://valid.canardpc.com/2652244
You should be monitoring your temps with HWmonitor.
Here's your problem: Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46
Motherboard can't handle power draw of CPU.
link: http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100

You shouldn't overclock on that motherboard.It's one of the worst there is.
Edited by Schmuckley - 1/13/13 at 9:07pm
 
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I don't suggest overclocking on that board. The board is probably on the verge of exploding. I'm dead serious. Roll back to stock settings until you get a better board.
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Can you guys please explain why the board is bad? What about it makes it so terrible and why would it explode? I haven't had any problems with it to the exception of having a hard time overclocking the CPU. I was told in the store before I bought it that it wasn't the best but still could get the job done with what I was wanting to do.
post #14 of 38
Most likely low quality VRM's is why you should watch that overclock. The vrm's regulate the voltage to the CPU, and certain low quality ones have been known to overheat and actually catch fire! After reading up on VRMs I specifically stopped overclocking on a certain board I had and bough a better one, then added small heatsinks to the VRM's just to be safe. Side note, I had to not only change my multiplier on my 555 but also the FSB to get from 3.2 to 3.8. It would only be stable at 3.6 otherwise. Not all chips overclock well, as you probably know.
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Most likely low quality VRM's is why you should watch that overclock. The vrm's regulate the voltage to the CPU, and certain low quality ones have been known to overheat and actually catch fire! After reading up on VRMs I specifically stopped overclocking on a certain board I had and bough a better one, then added small heatsinks to the VRM's just to be safe. Side note, I had to not only change my multiplier on my 555 but also the FSB to get from 3.2 to 3.8. It would only be stable at 3.6 otherwise. Not all chips overclock well, as you probably know.

Ahh... Ok I see. Well I have already planned on taking back my motherboard, as it is still within the returnable purchase date, and getting a better one. After doing some research on newegg with reviews, one person had very high quality components/hardware and it didn't seem to work correctly for him. Apparently, he had random reboots and crashes when not even overclocked. He swapped out the board and his parts were working much more smoothly even getting better cooling compared to the 970A-G46. Yes I am aware. For instance, An AMD Sempron 145, which I do also own, is a good chip to use for normal usage and can be unlocked to dual core and slightly overclocked but isn't recommended for what a lot of us on here try to do. You would end up frying it instantly. Now the Phenom series are a better choice in the socket AM3 chip family for overclocking, especially the 965. It was designed to do major overclocks if done properly with adequate cooling. Anyways... so would there be any msi motherboard models that you would recommend or would you recommend from staying away from msi entirely, as some have stated on newegg? If so, what brand/model would work best and give the best results with overclocking. Do note that I am on a tight budget after investing in all of the listed parts. Thanks smile.gif
post #16 of 38
NO MSI for AMD..Biostar T-series or Asus m4a89/m5a97-99 sabertooth,crosshair..m4a89gtd-pro (these were on ebay cheap)
 
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Personlally I have two Gigabyte boards, the first with the low vrm power phase and not good for the OC and the second that was good for OC'ing. Both have been reliable. I had some weird sleep problems with an Asus model I used on my in law's build so I'm not going with those anymore. It was a 597 model and I went through two of them. Neither would wake from sleep proplerly. Swapped several parts around to no avail. I have no experience with Biostar but reviews sound promising.
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post #18 of 38
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NO MSI for AMD..Biostar T-series or Asus m4a89/m5a97-99 sabertooth,crosshair..m4a89gtd-pro (these were on ebay cheap)

Thanks so much, Schmuckley! I just went out last night and returned the board just in time as it was the last day of my return date and traded it for the Asus M5a97 LE Revision 2.0. Even without the overclock, it already works much more reliable, stable, and and even quicker/more responsive. With overclocking, I have easily managed to get to 4GHz by simply raising the CPU multiplier to 20x with everything on default and auto. OCCTed the entire night I was sleeping. Idle temps range from high 20's to low 30's and full load temps range from low to high 40's. going to do small steps again today until I either get instability or temps go past 60 degrees Celsius. As far as temps go, does anyone recommend enabling or disabling amd Cool'n'Quiet or any other cooling feature built into this model motherboard? Thanks again so much for all of your help!
post #19 of 38
I left CnQ on when occing,but I was spanking the FSB not the multi,i'd be inclined to get yourself to 4ghz using the multi,then drop it all back to stock and raise the fsb to get your 4ghz..if only to see which "feels" quicker.

Also,you can put heatsinks onto the VRM's to at least give you some peace of mind that the heat generated when running stress tests has somewhere to dissipate to.
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I left CnQ on when occing,but I was spanking the FSB not the multi,i'd be inclined to get yourself to 4ghz using the multi,then drop it all back to stock and raise the fsb to get your 4ghz..if only to see which "feels" quicker.

Also,you can put heatsinks onto the VRM's to at least give you some peace of mind that the heat generated when running stress tests has somewhere to dissipate to.

Thanks for the advice. I'll give that a try right now and report back later tonight. Also, does disabling energy efficient and energy saving options help give better and more stable voltage to the overclocked components or does it not make a difference?
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