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Actually, those are Idle periods. 1 min at start & 5 min at end. I thought those minutes would be excluded from the time I set doh.gif

Ahhh, ok. I figured that's what was happening, just thought I'd verify.
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Ahhh, ok. I figured that's what was happening, just thought I'd verify.
so.... Are those minor voltage spikes normal?
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so.... Are those minor voltage spikes normal?

They can be normal. But it's not something that you want to have for normal usage. Under load the CPU voltage will usually drop a little. Using the LLC function, you want a setting that will give you the same voltage as what is set in the BIOS. Ultra High is usually the setting that gets it as close as possible without Overvolting.

On your graph it looks like a difference of 0.025v which isn't a big deal. It maybe adds an extra 6W of heat energy to your Overclock. So if your next lowest LLC setting drops the voltage way below what you have set, then I'd say stay with what you are using.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 1/17/13 at 7:35am
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ill have to give this a try and see how much more i can get out of my fx-6100. i haven't got it stable at 5GHz but i am so close.
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Following the steps in this guide (with the exception that I was running blend tests because I wasn't really paying attention) I have my Sabertooth 990FX R2 and FX8320 running at 4.2 ghz with "stock voltage".

VID is 1.375 and BIOS is set to 1.375 but it idles at 1.368 and bounces between 1.380 and 1.392 under load. If I set my LLC any lower then it drops below 1.368 under load. If I set LLC any higher then it will hit over 1.400 under load.

My temps were still slightly on the incline when I took this, but this is under load.

 
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very well written and documented post for the FX line, Rep given. smile.gif
     
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Following the steps in this guide (with the exception that I was running blend tests because I wasn't really paying attention) I have my Sabertooth 990FX R2 and FX8320 running at 4.2 ghz with "stock voltage".

VID is 1.375 and BIOS is set to 1.375 but it idles at 1.368 and bounces between 1.380 and 1.392 under load. If I set my LLC any lower then it drops below 1.368 under load. If I set LLC any higher then it will hit over 1.400 under load.

My temps were still slightly on the incline when I took this, but this is under load.


That's great. It looks like that H40 is really working, but still holding it's own. Does that HWinfo program show Core Temps as well? I believe the one listed in that screen shot is the CPU Socket Temp.
I'm also curious if your stock vCore @ 3.5Ghz is 1.375 with Turbo Disabled? That seems kind of high for an 8320. It could also be bouncing around if it's still set to Auto, instead of manually inputting the voltage after a restart.

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very well written and documented post for the FX line, Rep given. smile.gif

Thank you very much.
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ill have to give this a try and see how much more i can get out of my fx-6100. i haven't got it stable at 5GHz but i am so close.

Sabertooth, Custom Water, recipe for success thumb.gif

A couple notes:
If two cores within the same module fail during Prime95, that module may be limited in it's ability to Overclock further. Sometimes more voltage helps, but usually not.
If only a single core fails, then more voltage will fix it, but sometimes it takes too much extra voltage.

My CPU can almost run Prime95 Stable at 4.5Ghz with only 1.325v, but Core 8 will fail. I need 1.3625v to keep Core 8 happy. The amount keeps increasing the higher I go. I'd need to disable Module 4 (cores 7-8) to hit 5.0Ghz stable.

**Not all the CPU's have that issue, or as severe.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 1/18/13 at 7:22am
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i am interested to see the FSB section added to this. ive seen many others pushing into the 230s and 240s with no issues but i cant get mine stable past 213
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i am interested to see the FSB section added to this. ive seen many others pushing into the 230s and 240s with no issues but i cant get mine stable past 213

That's kind of why I'm nervous to create the FSB section. There's more variables that cause issues (headaches).
For instance, some motherboards have FSB dead zones.
  • For example, from 211-229 on Model A Motherboard might cause Hardware Errors when stressing, or random BSOD's etc.

There's also the whole issue of on some Motherboards, when you increase the FSB, you have to manually set the PCIe Clock to 100 or it might fail to boot.

On the M5A99FX PRO 2.0 I've pushed my FSB into the 300's, but there wasn't any noticeable performance gains. Some days it would be flaky, and some days it would work ok.
Around 250 is a nice point so I can Overclock my DRAM to 2000Mhz using the 8x Divider (1600Mhz)

Maybe I'll just do a very general/quick guide, and hopefully add info as the issues come up. wink.gif
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That's great. It looks like that H40 is really working, but still holding it's own. Does that HWinfo program show Core Temps as well? I believe the one listed in that screen shot is the CPU Socket Temp.
Yes, the green one is socket right below it the CPU 0 is core temp - matches the core temp values, e.g., 15.3*C at idle. I think what I like most about HWiNFO64 is being able to graph any value with 2 clicks, and if you hit save it will remember the graphs you had open and where. The only thing I don't like about its graphs is that is does not remember your upper and lower bounds on y for the graph on exit/restart.
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I'm also curious if your stock vCore @ 3.5Ghz is 1.375 with Turbo Disabled? That seems kind of high for an 8320.
It sure is stock non-turbo at 1.375 according to both CoreTemps VID and HWiNFO64's VID readings, and that is what the BIOS calls out as default. VCore would go to like 1.41v under turbo when I got it and LLC was on auto, but last time I actually had turbo enabled I was not paying attention to VID so I don't know what its Turbo VID is for sure. I undervolted it for a while and was "desktop stable" going 4.2 @ between 1.25 - 1.30v, I didn't record my settings but I remember it rebooted on me somewhere under 1.25 while playing D3. I have not tried to undervolt it again, I figured I would try to go the other direction and see how high I can go without using more volts.
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It could also be bouncing around if it's still set to Auto, instead of manually inputting the voltage after a restart.
Voltage was manually input after disabling turbo and reading VID, VCore was set to auto when I booted with turbo disabled to read VID. I have my VCore, Multiplier, and FSB set manually, all other CPU options are Auto. LLC is set to CPU:Ultra High and NB:High; all others auto or disabled.
 
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