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post #1461 of 3879
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Can someone inform me on how the asus utility treats power settings?

I'm currently set to offset in the bios. I've ran a blend test for 2 hours before a worker failed...

I had a worker fail after 15 minutes when setting the asus utilty to 1.39375. Once I moved it up to 1.4 I was able to get 2 hours of blend.

What exactly is setting the voltage to 1.4 doing? I don't see hwinfo64 coming even close to that on what it reports for min/current/max.

I've been having one hell of a time trying to figure out how to get stable at 4.3-4.4ghz. I run the small ftt tests for 10 minutes and kept going until I hit my thermal limits, then tried blend..only to have to increase voltage significantly to get anywhere and then it gets way to hot. If I set LLC higher the temperatures go up significantly..is this the setting thats keeping me back?

Any help would be very much appreciated, I'm at a low on my overclock self esteem frown.gif

HWInfo64
vCore Minimum: 1.284V
vCore: Maximum: 1.368V
CPU Voltage in Asus Utilty: 1.4
CPU/NB Voltage: 1.350
DRAM Voltage: 1.650

CPU Ratio 20
CPU BUS Freq. 215
DRAM Frequency: 862.9
NB Frequency: 2373

CPU Load Line: Regular
CPU/NB Load Line: Extreme
130% for capabilities
Power Phase control: standard
Power Response Controls: regular
Dram: 130%

Ram Timings
FSB:DRAM 1:4
10 12 11 30 40

Ehm.. Why do you have CPU LLC on Regular and CPU/NB on Extreme? ;s
If something you should switch those around.
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Ehm.. Why do you have CPU LLC on Regular and CPU/NB on Extreme? ;s
If something you should switch those around.

The CPU/NB on extreme generates no heat from my tests.

Moving CPU/Load line immediately generates a ton of heat. I can try medium again but anything above that just goes insane.

Is this the only thing that would be recommended in my current configuration?

Edit: Just to test again I dropped the voltage down to 1.35625 and enabled LLC on High.

Temps are now 72C and 62C and still climbing...
Edited by chiznitz - 10/21/13 at 10:08am
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Hi
I have an FX6300 which I am trying to run on an ASUS M5a97 pro
and am not having any luck. I have a HD Radeon 5870 1gb DDR 5
graphics card and cannot get a picture on my monitor.
RAM is Kingston Hyper 1600(8GB) and my cooler is a Xigmatek Aegir in push/pull config.
I have 2 of these boards and both behave the same. The CPU led flashes on then stays off, also the ram led but the VGA led does not indicate at all, also there are no beeps from the BIOS from the connected speaker.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

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First thing that comes to my mind is:
Is the bios compatible with that cpu? Maybe you need to update the bios?

When you take out the ram(all sticks) does it beep?
    
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Hello,
I was hoping to get a bit of advice. If my questions have been answered already, please direct me to those posts...if not, any help would be extremely appreciated!

Since my last post I haven't had much time to work on fine tuning my OC. Per the guide I ran Prime95's small fft to get my FX-6100 to 4.5Ghz.. Last time it ran was for just under 12 hours without any errors.

Now, moving on to the "blend" test...It's kicking my rear. Started out and got errors within 15 minutes. Made an adjustment, error at 59 minutes. Skipping the boring details...all other adjustments failed to render my OC stable for over an hour.

Please see attached screens of my current setup.

Again, thanks in advance for your suggestions.

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Hello Maximus,

There are 3 settings that you ought to consider adjusting initially, as follows:

1. AI Tweaker Menu AI Overclock Tuner: change this from DOCP to Manual.

2. Advanced Menu HPC Mode: try this with Enabled - will help with Overclocking, so long as you don't experience a freezing issue.

3. DIGI+ Menu CPU Power Duty Cycle: try this with Extreme.

I would only make one change at a time, and run thorough testing several times after each change to gauge the impact of each change.

Each of the Prime 95 Torture Tests will impact your platform a bit differently: I always run them all as part of my stability testing, with the longer timeframe emphasis on Blend (6 hours) and Custom with 75% RAM Tests (12 hours).
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Slightly "off topic", but probably relevant to stability when performance testing, so I'll proceed to ask here. A question regarding Vishera CPU's with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit:

There are apparently 2 Hot Fixes that have been released for AMD FX series CPU's: one to fix core scheduling, and one to address core parking. Neither of these Hot Fixes presented themselves to me through the normal Windows Update notification process. I've been running the 8350 since December, and am now running the 9590. Have not been doing much more than MS Office work and Internet surfing during that timeframe. To the point: are these necessary installs, or have they been integrated into SP1?

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I decided to go back to basics.
Every setting that is recommended in guide is set per guide.
Multiplier is at stock 20
voltage is 1.356
htt/nb 2200
Rated FSB 2207
I have ram set to 1033 w/ timings entered. I'm doing this on purpose to rule out ram errors (memtest was fine as well)

Running small FTT in prime w/ these "Stock OC" settings my CPU goes over 62C and socket goes over 72C as well. I shut down prime when I hit these numbers.

So what is really going on here with my system? I'm getting super frustrated at this point.

Coolmaster Hyper 212 Plus
Antec Nine Hundred case with the 120mm fans in front, I'm pushing the 122mm fan through the cooler currently and exhausting with 120mm fan in the back and a 200m fan on top.
Also have the stock cooler fan sitting on the video card angled towards the lower vrm heatsink (just below my cooler)

Ambient is 77F now which is a little high but I don't think I should already be at thermal limits..

Any help is super appreciated.
Edited by chiznitz - 10/21/13 at 6:37pm
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I decided to go back to basics.
Every setting that is recommended in guide is set per guide.
Multiplier is at stock 20
voltage is 1.356
htt/nb 2200
Rated FSB 2207
I have ram set to 1033 w/ timings entered. I'm doing this on purpose to rule out ram errors (memtest was fine as well)

Running small FTT in prime w/ these "Stock OC" settings my CPU goes over 62C and socket goes over 72C as well. I shut down prime when I hit these numbers.

So what is really going on here with my system? I'm getting super frustrated at this point.

Coolmaster Hyper 212 Plus
Antec Nine Hundred case with the 120mm fans in front, I'm pushing the 122mm fan through the cooler currently and exhausting with 120mm fan in the back and a 200m fan on top.
Also have the stock cooler fan sitting on the video card angled towards the lower vrm heatsink (just below my cooler)

Ambient is 77F now which is a little high but I don't think I should already be at thermal limits..

Any help is super appreciated.

Being that I have almost the same board, case, cpu, etc let me try to help. First off there is no M5A99FX EVO R2. There is an M5A99FX PRO R2 and an M5A99X EVO R2. Make sure you download and flash to the latest bios that is appropriate for your board. Also you should put that you have an 8350 and the specs of your ram for your rig for easy reference.

Now I'm not sure how you have that extra fan oriented, but I went ahead and stuck an 80mm fan (and you might be able to squeeze something larger), basically on the back of the GPU, pointing at an angle, blowing over the NB/VRM and a little of the CPU socket. While we're there, there's nothing stopping you from adding an extra fan somehow to your cooler for a push/pull config. I also recommend that you install a side 120mm fan on the side panel, which will blow fresh air over your GPU and CPU cooler. As always, ensure you have tucked all your cables nicely out of the way, use zip ties, velcro...whatever and leave all your extra cables hidden behind the right side back panel. Lastly, did your temps change at all when you remounted the heatsink? Everyone has their own method, I like to use a 1/2 grain of rice in the middle and a miniscule dot just inside each corner of the chip. I have not really found a difference as long as you don't use too much or too little, but I find it's important to set the heatsink on a little loosely with 2 screws, and then press hard/wiggle it a little bit, and always tighten your screws in an X pattern. A last note, make sure that neither the TPU or EPU switches on your board are on, if there is a red light next to the switch, then that particular switch is ON. Pay no attention to the orientation of the switch or the manual in this regard.

I start with all of this because the amount of heat that these chips put out is absolutely ridiculous. I came from a 1090T that I pushed between 4100-4400mhz and it didn't come close to stressing out my water cooling setup. Now with even more upgrades this 8320 is at the limit @ around 4500mhz.

Now as far as all those bios option go, I can say that one false move will send your temps skyrocketing. I have found that it's best to leave most of the voltages on auto and to be lenient on the VRM settings to keep the heat down. I played with everything and recommend you try this:

Obviously make sure you disable everything on the 2nd bios page for CPU such as cool n quiet, c6, etc (although I am currently stressing with all those options on, and I have found it to be just as stable at this moderate overclock, but I certainly would make sure they're off for anything extreme or when you're not sure what's stable yet), but do ENABLE HPC computing mode.

Now back to the other stuff.

Ai overclock tuner manual
Turbo core disable
Cpu ratio to something safe (try 18, stress for 10 minutes and if your temps are good/no errors, reboot and increase until your temps are bad/you get errors and either increase CPU voltage or knock it down half a multi and try again).
Bus frequency 200mhz
PCIE freq 100mhz
Memory set to something that is surely stable such as 1333 or 1600, ensure that your have the appropriate frequency at the top of the bios in yellow reading your target speed.
Go into your dram timing control and put 9-9-9 and 2t and leave everything else on auto (you can mess with this stuff later after you figure out your O/C)
Set your NB to 2200 and your HT to 2400, feel free to increase HT after your figure out what's going on.
anything "spread spectrum" to disable
Set your CPU llc to Ultra high. Ultra high appears to set the most STABLE voltage, although I have found that setting this to high, with a slight bump in voltage will decrease temps a touch. The reason that regular/high are not used is because they cause vdroop, and will cause your voltages to change more between load and idle.
Set your NB LLC to auto
CPU current capability to 130%
cpu/nb current capability to auto or 100%
CPU phase control optimized but you can try regular if you want to see if there's a difference
cpu voltage frequency auto
cpu power duty control to t probe
(let us know if there are any other options in your bios you are unsure about)

Set your CPU voltage manually, I would start at 1.375 or 1.4v but that's just me.
Set your dram to its default safe voltage (1.5 or 1.65v, etc) Adding voltage here seems to add heat to your processor so if you're worried about heat, put 1.5v, 1333mhz and loose timings just for testing and then increase later).
Everything else on auto. I think mine defaults vddc to 2.5, nb to 1.25, just make sure there's nothing silly going on like your board going wacko with the voltage on any of the items as some will add a lot of heat.

In the bios I usually like to leave fan monitoring to disable, and then I have AISUITE load up with windows and I only have fan xpert installed. Note that at least on my board, the fan speeds are based off of the socket temp, so I set the fan speeds to "user" and set the fans to hit 100% at 68-70* C.

Next, I have been using openhardwaremonitor and I have found that the voltage and temperatures are very accurate. Feel free to use cpu-z as a quick reference to check your voltage and frequencies but don't leave both open it can sometimes cause issues. Open prime95, click blend, then click custom and set it to use a bunch of your ram (75% or more). If it runs for 30 minutes you are getting close. Over 1 hour you are getting really close. Check to see if the failure/errors are always with the same core(s), and take note of what the error is.
Edited by madmanmarz - 10/21/13 at 9:07pm
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Being that I have almost the same board, case, cpu, etc let me try to help. First off there is no M5A99FX EVO R2. There is an M5A99FX PRO R2 and an M5A99X EVO R2. Make sure you download and flash to the latest bios that is appropriate for your board. Also you should put that you have an 8350 and the specs of your ram for your rig for easy reference.

Now I'm not sure how you have that extra fan oriented, but I went ahead and stuck an 80mm fan (and you might be able to squeeze something larger), basically on the back of the GPU, pointing at an angle, blowing over the NB/VRM and a little of the CPU socket. While we're there, there's nothing stopping you from adding an extra fan somehow to your cooler for a push/pull config. I also recommend that you install a side 120mm fan on the side panel, which will blow fresh air over your GPU and CPU cooler. As always, ensure you have tucked all your cables nicely out of the way, use zip ties, velcro...whatever and leave all your extra cables hidden behind the right side back panel. Lastly, did your temps change at all when you remounted the heatsink? Everyone has their own method, I like to use a 1/2 grain of rice in the middle and a miniscule dot just inside each corner of the chip. I have not really found a difference as long as you don't use too much or too little, but I find it's important to set the heatsink on a little loosely with 2 screws, and then press hard/wiggle it a little bit, and always tighten your screws in an X pattern. A last note, make sure that neither the TPU or EPU switches on your board are on, if there is a red light next to the switch, then that particular switch is ON. Pay no attention to the orientation of the switch or the manual in this regard.

I start with all of this because the amount of heat that these chips put out is absolutely ridiculous. I came from a 1090T that I pushed between 4100-4400mhz and it didn't come close to stressing out my water cooling setup. Now with even more upgrades this 8320 is at the limit @ around 4500mhz.

Now as far as all those bios option go, I can say that one false move will send your temps skyrocketing. I have found that it's best to leave most of the voltages on auto and to be lenient on the VRM settings to keep the heat down. I played with everything and recommend you try this:

Obviously make sure you disable everything on the 2nd bios page for CPU such as cool n quiet, c6, etc (although I am currently stressing with all those options on, and I have found it to be just as stable at this moderate overclock, but I certainly would make sure they're off for anything extreme or when you're not sure what's stable yet), but do ENABLE HPC computing mode.

Now back to the other stuff.

Ai overclock tuner manual
Turbo core disable
Cpu ratio to something safe (try 18, stress for 10 minutes and if your temps are good/no errors, reboot and increase until your temps are bad/you get errors and either increase CPU voltage or knock it down half a multi and try again).
Bus frequency 200mhz
PCIE freq 100mhz
Memory set to something that is surely stable such as 1333 or 1600, ensure that your have the appropriate frequency at the top of the bios in yellow reading your target speed.
Go into your dram timing control and put 9-9-9 and 2t and leave everything else on auto (you can mess with this stuff later after you figure out your O/C)
Set your NB to 2200 and your HT to 2400, feel free to increase HT after your figure out what's going on.
anything "spread spectrum" to disable
Set your CPU llc to Ultra high. Ultra high appears to set the most STABLE voltage, although I have found that setting this to high, with a slight bump in voltage will decrease temps a touch. The reason that regular/high are not used is because they cause vdroop, and will cause your voltages to change more between load and idle.
Set your NB LLC to auto
CPU current capability to 130%
cpu/nb current capability to auto or 100%
CPU phase control optimized but you can try regular if you want to see if there's a difference
cpu voltage frequency auto
cpu power duty control to t probe
(let us know if there are any other options in your bios you are unsure about)

Set your CPU voltage manually, I would start at 1.375 or 1.4v but that's just me.
Set your dram to its default safe voltage (1.5 or 1.65v, etc) Adding voltage here seems to add heat to your processor so if you're worried about heat, put 1.5v, 1333mhz and loose timings just for testing and then increase later).
Everything else on auto. I think mine defaults vddc to 2.5, nb to 1.25, just make sure there's nothing silly going on like your board going wacko with the voltage on any of the items as some will add a lot of heat.

In the bios I usually like to leave fan monitoring to disable, and then I have AISUITE load up with windows and I only have fan xpert installed. Note that at least on my board, the fan speeds are based off of the socket temp, so I set the fan speeds to "user" and set the fans to hit 100% at 68-70* C.

Next, I have been using openhardwaremonitor and I have found that the voltage and temperatures are very accurate. Feel free to use cpu-z as a quick reference to check your voltage and frequencies but don't leave both open it can sometimes cause issues. Open prime95, click blend, then click custom and set it to use a bunch of your ram (75% or more). If it runs for 30 minutes you are getting close. Over 1 hour you are getting really close. Check to see if the failure/errors are always with the same core(s), and take note of what the error is.

Sorry for not reposting my settings. I edited my profile today to have them there and just realized that the link I selected goes to the correct motherboard the wording was wrong so yes i have the m5a99x
Ram is Team Vulcan DDR 2400 2x4GB modules

I just tried the settings you recommended but kept my stock voltage of 1.356

Temps rose to 73 Socket and 62 CPU within 5 minutes.
Idle was 36 socket 20cpu

I guess I could try pasting with the grain of rice since I did glazing w/ credit card method and removed a ton of the paste.

Cooling should be fine, I have everything set per others with same setup.

Edit: meant to say voltage 1.356 originally
Edited by chiznitz - 10/21/13 at 10:46pm
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Sorry for not reposting my settings. I edited my profile today to have them there and just realized that the link I selected goes to the correct motherboard the wording was wrong so yes i have the m5a99x
Ram is Team Vulcan DDR 2400 2x4GB modules

I just tried the settings you recommended but kept my stock voltage of 1.356

Temps rose to 73 Socket and 62 CPU within 5 minutes.
Idle was 36 socket 20cpu

I guess I could try pasting with the grain of rice since I did glazing w/ credit card method and removed a ton of the paste.

Cooling should be fine, I have everything set per others with same setup.

Edit: meant to say voltage 1.356 originally

Yeah f that. Spray some alcohol on the cpu and sink, wipe off all the old stuff real good with something lint free then do your final wipes with a coffee filter or something lint free, visually inspect for any foreign matter on either surface before mounting. Little dab in the middle, push down and wiggle, cross tighten and check your temps again.

Could you post some pics of your rig as well?
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