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post #21 of 4087
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Wow, that VID....well at least you are making good progress with it. Maybe it's a Golden 8320 biggrin.gif:D
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I'm also curious if your stock vCore @ 3.5Ghz is 1.375 with Turbo Disabled? That seems kind of high for an 8320. It could also be bouncing around if it's still set to Auto, instead of manually inputting the voltage after a restart.

I've had two 8320s, one had 1.4v / 1.425v (turbo off/on) and the other had 1.3875v / 1.425v (turbo off/on) so 1.375v would be fine considering this sad experience :-) Then again, I get all the bad chips I would say. Reading how you've said that MOST VIshera chips will do 400-500 MHz with stock volts, my 8350 will do 4.2 with stock volts :-( that's just barely the turbo speed. And it takes 1.456v to be stable at 4.5, which already reaches my temp limits. Undervolting it isn't really great either, it isn't stable at 4 GHz with anything less than 1.325v under load...

I lost the chip lottery three times in a row with Vishera..

I don't think it's the board that's keeping me back THAT much since other people seem to do very good with the UD3...
Edited by bios_R_us - 1/19/13 at 5:17pm
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I've had two 8320s, one had 1.4v / 1.425v (turbo off/on) and the other had 1.3875v / 1.425v (turbo off/on) so 1.375v would be fine considering this sad experience :-) Then again, I get all the bad chips I would say. Reading how you've said that MOST VIshera chips will do 400-500 MHz with stock volts, my 8350 will do 4.2 with stock volts :-( that's just barely the turbo speed. And it takes 1.456v to be stable at 4.5, which already reaches my temp limits. Undervolting it isn't really great either, it isn't stable at 4 GHz with anything less than 1.325v under load...

I lost the chip lottery three times in a row with Vishera..

I don't think it's the board that's keeping me back THAT much since other people seem to do very good with the UD3...

That is some really bad luck. Hopefully it's not due to the motherboad. What is the exact model, and version? The budget Gigabytes that are doing good are the 990FX UD3 Revision 1.1 or newer with LLC. It seems like either your board has some major vDroop, or it's a re-branded 890 chipset that wasn't updated to handle more than 110A on the CPU. Feel free to PM me, I'll see if I can help at all.
post #24 of 4087
It's the 990fxa-UD3 rev1.2 and the volts are rather stable (1.375v for example, with LLC on auto, ranges from 1.36 to 1.392 under load). I've got 4.5 stable at 1.4v and Ultra High LLC (goes up to 1.456v under load) but temps go above 62c if i don't "chill" my room. I've only stressed it with 20 IBT runs on custom - 6144mb ram and about 1h of P95 blend.

I'm trying for 1.375v and Ultra High LLC on 4400 right now, IBT was fine, P95 is at it for 70 mins so far, volts would peak at 1.424v for the first hour but have reached 1.440v now .. and temps were getting a bit over 62c on the cores so I opened the window .... if I try anything lower on the LLC it fails....
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How does lowering the VDDA voltage lower temps? I have set it to 2.2 at 4.7 but see very little difference, probably outweighed by the ambient temp changes are a result of running OCCT biggrin.gif
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How does lowering the VDDA voltage lower temps? I have set it to 2.2 at 4.7 but see very little difference, probably outweighed by the ambient temp changes are a result of running OCCT biggrin.gif

It's only a couple degrees, but it's something.

I don't know if it's only on my board either, but lowering the VDDA for me, makes my voltages very steady as well. If I set 1.425 in the BIOS with Ultra LLC, under load it will go to 1.416v and wont change. If I use 2.5v or higher, then it will fluctuate a little between 1.416v and 1.425v under load.

I should also update my guide, that if you are using the FSB to Overclock, then you shouldn't lower the VDDA.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 1/21/13 at 11:48am
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I updated the Guide with FSB info. It's pretty General but I hope it helps.

I also created a small guide on using Turbo mode with the FSB to get better Single Threaded Performance while staying within your thermal and power limits.
post #28 of 4087
Bah....instability (hardware initialization failure I think? it was a few nights ago) within 10 mins using prime95 at 4.0 and 4.2ghz. Turned off cpu and pcie spread spectrum, tried it again and got "illegal sumout" I'm doubting that my chip will be a very good overclocker given that it failed even at 4.0ghz. Which is even more pathetic since I disabled all the power saving features it runs at 3.9ghz all the time it seems 4.0 wouldn't be hard.
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post #29 of 4087
hmm if I actually follow the guide it works! lol, I neglected to adjust the digi+vrm section and now that I have i've gotten it working at 4.0ghz, once that runs for a while i'll move on smile.gif
     
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post #30 of 4087
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hmm if I actually follow the guide it works! lol, I neglected to adjust the digi+vrm section and now that I have i've gotten it working at 4.0ghz, once that runs for a while i'll move on smile.gif

Yes, the settings in the Digi+ section are very important. Once it's all set, it's pretty much just a matter of increasing the frequency and adding a bit more voltage.
Can't wait to see how much you can push that Bulldozer.
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