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post #211 of 4087
Yea I'm having a hard time even getting a stable overclock at all. I'm starting to think maybe my chip or mobo is defective. Basically here's the deal: I followed your instructions/recommended settings and while my thermals are all staying within range, I'm having some HEAVY downclocking. My target overclock was 3.5ghz and my CPU would downclock all the way down to 2.8(less than stock clocks) it mostly stays at 2.8 but will occasionally jump to 3.1-3.5ghz. My voltages are just as erratic. Jumping from 1.25v all the way up to 1.42v and constantly changing (according to HWmonitor and CPU-Z). So, knowing that this wasn't normal, I reset everything to optimized defaults. And out of curiosity, I ran prime on stock settings while monitoring my temps and voltages, I noticed that it is still downclocking to 2.8 and sometimes lower.. And while idling, it does the same thing, only the clock speed will sometimes go up to 4.0 and my multipliers are changing. So, what the heck is going on! I'm starting to think I have a defective mobo/chip. What do you think?
post #212 of 4087
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Yea I'm having a hard time even getting a stable overclock at all. I'm starting to think maybe my chip or mobo is defective. Basically here's the deal: I followed your instructions/recommended settings and while my thermals are all staying within range, I'm having some HEAVY downclocking. My target overclock was 3.5ghz and my CPU would downclock all the way down to 2.8(less than stock clocks) it mostly stays at 2.8 but will occasionally jump to 3.1-3.5ghz. My voltages are just as erratic. Jumping from 1.25v all the way up to 1.42v and constantly changing (according to HWmonitor and CPU-Z). So, knowing that this wasn't normal, I reset everything to optimized defaults. And out of curiosity, I ran prime on stock settings while monitoring my temps and voltages, I noticed that it is still downclocking to 2.8 and sometimes lower.. And while idling, it does the same thing, only the clock speed will sometimes go up to 4.0 and my multipliers are changing. So, what the heck is going on! I'm starting to think I have a defective mobo/chip. What do you think?

The power saving features will reduce the cpu clock multiplier even under load in order to save power and reduce thermals. It will do this even if the temps are good. You can disable all the power saving features and then enable HPC mode (I'm not sure if the Version 1.0 Sabertooths have that, but if not that's ok)
Then increase your Overclock and re-test. If that's the case I will probably make that recommendation to disable those in the guide. At least until the highest stable overclock is achieved, because of the confusion it causes.
post #213 of 4087
Okay so I disabled all power saving features and enabled HPC and manually set my CPU voltage from auto to its stock setting at 1.36v and now I am getting no erratic voltage or multiplier changes, even under load. However I ran prime on my stock core speed of 3.1 and my core temps quickly rose past the 61c threshold. I stopped the test right away. My temps never got this hot, this fast. It is a relief that my multiplier isn't so erratic anymore, as I was beginning to think my chip was defective, but now I am concerned with my temps. They are a little concerning, any tips on how to cool it down? Otherwise I have 0 overclocking headroom. :/
post #214 of 4087
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Okay so I disabled all power saving features and enabled HPC and manually set my CPU voltage from auto to its stock setting at 1.36v and now I am getting no erratic voltage or multiplier changes, even under load. However I ran prime on my stock core speed of 3.1 and my core temps quickly rose past the 61c threshold. I stopped the test right away. My temps never got this hot, this fast. It is a relief that my multiplier isn't so erratic anymore, as I was beginning to think my chip was defective, but now I am concerned with my temps. They are a little concerning, any tips on how to cool it down? Otherwise I have 0 overclocking headroom. :/

Are you going by the CPU temp through Asus Suite? Asus Suite lists the Socket Temp as CPU Temp.
(Which can actually reach over 70 Celsius)

I'd recommend using a program like HWMonitor which will have a listing for Package Temp in order to monitor Core Temps.

You should be getting ok temperatures with the CM 212, as even the Stock AMD cooler will keep decent temps at 3.1Ghz. (~50 Celsius)
post #215 of 4087
how did you disable all power saving i have same problem with that my core is normaly 3,3 and drop to 1,4mhz that is not normal
post #216 of 4087
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Are you going by the CPU temp through Asus Suite? Asus Suite lists the Socket Temp as CPU Temp.
(Which can actually reach over 70 Celsius)

I'd recommend using a program like HWMonitor which will have a listing for Package Temp in order to monitor Core Temps.



You should be getting ok temperatures with the CM 212, as even the Stock AMD cooler will keep decent temps at 3.1Ghz. (~50 Celsius)

Yeah I am going by H.W. monitor, Reading the Core temps. That's why it is so alarming, Do you think I could try turning my voltages down? Is there anything else I can do to reduce my thermals?
post #217 of 4087
hello,
I posted guide on other thread, push pull your air cooler, then save up 200 for a water cooling kit, like an xspc kit.
    
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post #218 of 4087
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Oh I see, 4.4Ghz is a nice overclock. You're right, it's around the point where you start to really boost the voltage needed for stability, so definately a good choice.

You will have to read my FSB + Turbo section to find out what will happen when you enable Turbo while using the FSB to Overclock.

It is a good idea to enable Cool'n'Quiet once you have your overclock. That way it will drop the voltage and frequency when idle, so save heat and power.


Just wanted to let you know that my rig is working strong, I enabled the turbo core. It bumped my voltage to 1.4++. Temps are ok since I left the cool n' quiet enabled. Ran Cinebench single core and got a 1.10 score on single thread much better than when I first tested is stock. My gaming experience has been good, my OS and programs are running great. Guess now I will experiment with virtual machine and load a Linux. Thanks for all the tips, it must have taken you time to get to the templates to start our overclock from, which everyone in this awesome thread is enjoying. By the way, for those who do not have use for the stock AMD heat sink, I used the fan to cool the VRMs biggrin.gif
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post #219 of 4087
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Yes, the M5A boards are a lot more work. To reach 4.7ghz on mine, I installed a 60mm fan on top of the VRM heatsink. I also cut a hole in the back panel for a 120mm fan to blow air directly at the CPU socket. The CPU socket which is directly linked to the VRM's doesn't like to run over 70 Celsius, or you see throttling and instability.

Cost wise, I would have chosen the Evo 2.0 over the Pro 2.0. They Evo has the same power delivery system, for much less. As I wasn't running SLI or Crossfire I didn't need the 16x 16x PCIe lanes compared to 16x 8x, not that it would make a huge difference.

The Sabertooth has superior cooling in that regard. For the most part it will keep the Core and Socket temps almost equal, during stress testing, so if you will be fine unless your CPU is running too hot.

The advantage of the Crosshair V Formula is the Extreme Digi engine for power delivery.
The advantage of the Crosshair V Formula-Z is the Extreme Digi II engine for power delivery.
Im currently passing full fft's at 4.8ghz with my evo 2 but voltage is 1.510 no cooling fan on vrm's sockets at 62 & core 54 cpuid chowing cpuvcore at 1.524 all this with case open and a thermalright silver arrow extreme, waiting on a new case to fit the third ty - 143 fan and see if i can use my stock cooling fan to aid the vrm's...... will have to blend test tomorrow and also update my rig in signature as i only got my cooler today and board a few weeks ago
Btw my chips an fx 6300
post #220 of 4087
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Yeah I am going by H.W. monitor, Reading the Core temps. That's why it is so alarming, Do you think I could try turning my voltages down? Is there anything else I can do to reduce my thermals?

Sorry for the delayed post.

There must be something wrong with the seating of that CPU cooler to have that high of a temp. I'd recommend taking it off, cleaning both surfaces with Rubbing Alcohol and then re-seating the cooler using the Pea Sized TIM method.
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Just wanted to let you know that my rig is working strong, I enabled the turbo core. It bumped my voltage to 1.4++. Temps are ok since I left the cool n' quiet enabled. Ran Cinebench single core and got a 1.10 score on single thread much better than when I first tested is stock. My gaming experience has been good, my OS and programs are running great. Guess now I will experiment with virtual machine and load a Linux. Thanks for all the tips, it must have taken you time to get to the templates to start our overclock from, which everyone in this awesome thread is enjoying. By the way, for those who do not have use for the stock AMD heat sink, I used the fan to cool the VRMs biggrin.gif

I'm glad it working well for you. These really are great processors to use. It did take a bit of trial and error to find what works well, and the guide still probably isn't perfect. I contacted Asus for more info about the more advanced settings, but "they don't offer Overclocking advice" biggrin.gif
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Im currently passing full fft's at 4.8ghz with my evo 2 but voltage is 1.510 no cooling fan on vrm's sockets at 62 & core 54 cpuid chowing cpuvcore at 1.524 all this with case open and a thermalright silver arrow extreme, waiting on a new case to fit the third ty - 143 fan and see if i can use my stock cooling fan to aid the vrm's...... will have to blend test tomorrow and also update my rig in signature as i only got my cooler today and board a few weeks ago
Btw my chips an fx 6300
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Just wanted to let you know that my rig is working strong, I enabled the turbo core. It bumped my voltage to 1.4++. Temps are ok since I left the cool n' quiet enabled. Ran Cinebench single core and got a 1.10 score on single thread much better than when I first tested is stock. My gaming experience has been good, my OS and programs are running great. Guess now I will experiment with virtual machine and load a Linux. Thanks for all the tips, it must have taken you time to get to the templates to start our overclock from, which everyone in this awesome thread is enjoying. By the way, for those who do not have use for the stock AMD heat sink, I used the fan to cool the VRMs biggrin.gif

Those are some great results. The Silver Arrow is an amazing Air Cooler.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 3/24/13 at 8:13am
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