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post #2261 of 4095
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Try HWInfo64 to monitor your volts. The reality is that it won't be accurate - nor will what you set voltage to on your motherboard. You need a high end multimeter to actually tell what voltage your CPU is getting. That said - the measurements you get from HWInfo64 at least are consistent so even if they aren't exactly true (same with all software monitoring) they are at least repeatable

About lapping ... The Integrated Heat Sink (the zinc-plated metal cover you see on top of the die of the CPU when you look at your chip) (IHS) on the 8350 is dome shaped. You won't get proper seating of the cooler to the CPU without making the top of the 8350 flat - this should be apparent by looking at the build-up of Thermal Interface Material (aka thermal paste) (TIM) on your chip when you remove your cooler - ideally it should be almost entirely pushed away from the mating surfaces. You lap your CPU by sanding it flat on a flat surface - post mid-century glass works fine as a surface to do this on. Start with 400 grit sand paper and you will see that the middle of the IHS is the first to sand through the zinc into the underlying copper. You use the 400 until the whole IHS is copper, then step up to higher grit papers like 800, 1200 and 2000. Eventually the IHS will be flat and you'll be able to see your reflection in it.


(what you see on the chip is a reflection of a white wall with a painting on it)
Ok I see what you mean by lapping. But is there a reason why they have the heat sink on the CPU that way. Why doesn't AMD just do that for you? Is it dangerous? Is there a downside?
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was that temp the core or socket?

were the fans at max?

what is your ambient case temp?

That was core temp. Socket reached like 75 degrees celsius.

Well I have it set to go faster the hotter it gets.

I will get back to you on the ambient temp.
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Ok I see what you mean by lapping. But is there a reason why they have the heat sink on the CPU that way. Why doesn't AMD just do that for you? Is it dangerous? Is there a downside?

The other side of the equation is the heatsink. Some are concave, some convex and some perfectly flat. It could be most of AMDs stock hsf are concave, plus they use a thick coating of thermal paste. All this is fine if youre running at stock speeds. However, when you overclock youre in a different ball game, and every tiny little bit can help. smile.gif

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post mid-century glass works fine as a surface to do this on.
Heh, yeah. You dont want to use any glass from the 1700's to lap on. tongue.gif
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Yeah, I lapped my 8350 and it was quite concave, and it did make a difference.
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The other side of the equation is the heatsink. Some are concave, some convex and some perfectly flat. It could be most of AMDs stock hsf are concave, plus they use a thick coating of thermal paste. All this is fine if youre running at stock speeds. However, when you overclock youre in a different ball game, and every tiny little bit can help. smile.gif
Heh, yeah. You dont want to use any glass from the 1700's to lap on. tongue.gif
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Is it in any way dangerous?
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Is it in any way dangerous?

Well ... you probably won't be eligible for any warrantee claims smile.gif And if you have a few of them in the drawer you might get your chips confused biggrin.gif

Really the only danger I see is bending the pins. I dd notice some damage, which was to my fingertips getting raw. I did it with my bare hands and my pins didn't get bent at all
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I've noticed some people playing around with settings like Power Phase and Power Response control and was wondering if that might boost my stability in any way. I tried playing around with some of those power settings the BIOS doesn't mention but didn't notice a difference. If anyone can explain the more complex BIOS tweaking I would appreciate it. I'm gonna upgrade to an 8350 in a week or so and would like to see if I can push the limit on my 6100 before it finds a new home. I'm currently at 4.1GHz @ 1.38v, everything is set like the guide says, multi only.
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Really the only danger I see is bending the pins. I dd notice some damage, which was to my fingertips getting raw. I did it with my bare hands and my pins didn't get bent at all

Push the pins into some closed cell styrofoam cut to the size of the cpu. smile.gif
    
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Hi there,

these are my settings how it's shown at the first page. One question though - is everything done right & what stands T.Probe and C.Probe for at CPU Power Duty Control ? T is for thermal, C is for the VRM Current. no more options, there isnt such thing as "Extreme" or so. What should I do ? Let it on T.Probe for now..



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Hi there,

these are my settings how it's shown at the first page. One question though - is everything done right & what stands T.Probe and C.Probe for at CPU Power Duty Control ? T is for thermal, C is for the VRM Current. no more options, there isnt such thing as "Extreme" or so. What should I do ? Let it on T.Probe for now..

yes,

with good cooling on vrm i alwas left it to current
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Is it in any way dangerous?

There is a slight risk of ESD which can damage your chip.
Plus if you dry sand the IHS there is the possibility of fine copper getting inside the cpu, there are small gaps between the cpu and the IHS.
    
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