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post #2281 of 4095
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If your running the cooling solution listed in your rig sig that would be the reason why.

You'll find there isn't much else that builds heat like an 8350 (when OCing especially) but without more of your systems current setup it's hard to say.

At this point I'm thinking a lack of cooling/air flow.
Without a lot of air flow you could have some heat soaking going on too.

It would help everyone if you'd update your rig sig too.
Did I forget to put the 8350 in my sig? My bad.
Still have the same cooler with original fan and 120mm CM Sickleflow as front intake, 140mm Bitfenix Spectre Pro PWM as top exhaust and a random 120mm 1800rpm fan salvaged from a dead PSU as rear exhaust. Cooler takes air in from the bottom.
My main concern is not the actual socket temp but how much higher it is than the core. I remember reading on this thread at some point that it shouldn't be more than 15C higher so 20C higher seems really bad.
Edit: the case has no side panels on.
Edited by M1kuTheAwesome - 3/19/14 at 3:49pm
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Did I forget to put the 8350 in my sig? My bad.
Still have the same cooler with original fan and 120mm CM Sickleflow as front intake, 140mm Bitfenix Spectre Pro PWM as top exhaust and a random 120mm 1800rpm fan salvaged from a dead PSU as rear exhaust. Cooler takes air in from the bottom.
My main concern is not the actual socket temp but how much higher it is than the core. I remember reading on this thread at some point that it shouldn't be more than 15C higher so 20C higher seems really bad.
Edit: the case has no side panels on.

What is happening is not enough heat is being dissipated and bottle necking at the base of the HS creating the higher socket temps.
You might try re-seating the HS but I doubt very seriously you'll see big gains at all. It's only a four pipe HS. You might want to look at a Noctura D14 as something more suitable if you're hoping to OC and maintain temps.
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Hey guys.
I was very excited when I got my 8350, but when I started overclocking I quickly got disappointed: I set the vcore at the standard 1.356 and tweaked all the other settings according to the guide and that already put my socket temps at 72C, which is not right giving that my core temp was nearly 20C lower. I'm afraid it's my VRMs heating it up. I tried putting a 140mm fan on the back of the MB but that didn't change my temps at all. What else could I try to cool things down?

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Did I forget to put the 8350 in my sig? My bad.
Still have the same cooler with original fan and 120mm CM Sickleflow as front intake, 140mm Bitfenix Spectre Pro PWM as top exhaust and a random 120mm 1800rpm fan salvaged from a dead PSU as rear exhaust. Cooler takes air in from the bottom.
My main concern is not the actual socket temp but how much higher it is than the core. I remember reading on this thread at some point that it shouldn't be more than 15C higher so 20C higher seems really bad.
Edit: the case has no side panels on.

What is happening is not enough heat is being dissipated and bottle necking at the base of the HS creating the higher socket temps.
You might try re-seating the HS but I doubt very seriously you'll see big gains at all. It's only a four pipe HS. You might want to look at a Noctura D14 as something more suitable if you're hoping to OC and maintain temps.

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My main concern is not the actual socket temp but how much higher it is than the core. I remember reading on this thread at some point that it shouldn't be more than 15C higher so 20C higher seems really bad.
Edit: the case has no side panels on.
You should put a fan on the vrms too.

My core temps are always higher than my socket temps. I have a fan on the vrms, which is also slightly angled towards the base of the cpu socket, and I have a 92mm fan on the back of the mobo blowing cool air in the area of the socket and vrms.
    
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well i just got done using this guide and i got up to 4700 with the stock voltage but i went up to 4800 and i ran prime95 but noticed only 6 cores where at full load the other 2 were hovering around 13 to 20 %? not sure whats up with that? also i ran heaven bench and im getting lower stats accross the board from my stock settings?

extra note. i did however run the 3d mark fire strike test and got 5860 default settings and 6277 at the 4700 clock mark.
Edited by Liveblue23 - 3/19/14 at 10:46pm
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well i just got done using this guide and i got up to 4700 with the stock voltage but i went up to 4800 and i ran prime95 but noticed only 6 cores where at full load the other 2 were hovering around 13 to 20 %? not sure whats up with that? also i ran heaven bench and im getting lower stats accross the board from my stock settings?

extra note. i did however run the 3d mark fire strike test and got 5860 default settings and 6277 at the 4700 clock mark.

Please fill your rig sig http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig so we all know what your working with.
4.8 stock voltage? Prime95 is probably failing due to instability. This is what your seeing with the two cores dropping off. They're no longer working because they failed the test.

I can't help further without more of your system info.
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ok thanks for the info. i updated my info and sig. id love more input.
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ok thanks for the info. i updated my info and sig. id love more input.

I just noticed you're new here, Welcome!

Thank you for filling it out! Now we all know your system is capable with your current mobo and cooling solution. It's up to you to find those limits. This takes time if you're looking to optimize your setup so be forewarned.

You tested using Prime95, was this the first failure you've seen? If so how long did P95 run until you saw this failure?
The previous test you ran that hopefully you passed, how long did that test run?
It's not uncommon to see a need for a slight/fair increase in Vcore between 4.5 and 4.7 to maintain stability. 4.8 will definitely not happen at near stock voltages most are running much closer to 1.48 to 1.5v Vcore to be anywhere near stable (24 hr Prime95 stable) to give you an idea of more of the norm.

IBT AVX version also works nice (faster for quick runs before running P95) to find instability. http://www.overclock.net/attachments/13202
You'd want to keep test "results" in the +xxx.xx side, showing a - "result" shows instability while passing 20 runs on "Max" setting all while maintaining temps. Be careful, this will create some heat.

Are all memory specs manually entered in bios etc? Would be very helpful to see a snip showing HWInfo64 with useful items showing along with CUPZ like this Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This would save a few questions and we could see where you are voltage wise etc.
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I've noticed that Asus mobo M5A99FX PRO R2.0 seems to be having socket temp problems in this thread.

I've just come in here to say i have the same problem FX 8350 @ a measly 4.4Ghz see's me get to the max temp within 5 minutes of prime95

Socket - 72 celcius
Core - 50 celcius

I'm running an XSPC EX 240 rad cooling system, and the core temps are fine, but this socket temp is insane.

I can slow the rising temp by ghetto zip tying a standard cpu cooler fan onto the NB heatsink but it still ends up around 68 degrees after 20 min of prime95.

Any other tips? I was hoping to get to 4.7 - 4.8 but it's out of reach atm. mad.gif
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I can slow the rising temp by ghetto zip tying a standard cpu cooler fan onto the NB heatsink but it still ends up around 68 degrees after 20 min of prime95.

Any other tips? I was hoping to get to 4.7 - 4.8 but it's out of reach atm.

Theres a heatpipe between the VRM heatsink and the NB heatsink. Put the fan blowing on the VRM heatsink angled towards the base of the cpu socket. (The VRM fins are angled that way too) Also put a fan on the back of the mobo blowing on the socket and vrm area.
    
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FX-6300 @ 4.9ghz M5A99X EVO R2.0 PNY 2gb NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 2X4gb 
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Intel 330 SSD Samsung HD103SI Samsung HD204UI X 2 esata externals  Western Digital WD5000AAKX  
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Optiarc DVD RW AD-7280S Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus Windows 8.1.1 pro with media center Funai 32inch LED HDTV 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 Corsair CX600 Custom twin full tower, 12 - 5 1/4 bays total Logitech M510 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300 @ 4.9ghz M5A99X EVO R2.0 PNY 2gb NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 PNY DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 2X4gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Intel 330 SSD Samsung HD103SI Samsung HD204UI X 2 esata externals  Western Digital WD5000AAKX  
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7280S Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus Windows 8.1.1 pro with media center Funai 32inch LED HDTV 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 Corsair CX600 Custom twin full tower, 12 - 5 1/4 bays total Logitech M510 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Combo Mouse Pad, Calculator, USB ports USB stereo speakers Custom 5.1 digital sound system 
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