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So the cou load temp is actually 43C. Any idea what the package temps are a measure of?

On my CHV-Z HWInfo64 reports Package temp identical to Core temp. Not saying it's this way for you.
I'd recommend trying AMD's AOD http://www.amd.com/en-us/markets/game/downloads and use it simply to compare/identify what values are what.
It displays a "Thermal Margin" which is how much you have left to go with CPU Core temps.

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hi everyone.

I used this guide in the past to oc my 8350 when i was on my h100i, got to 4.7ghz @ 1.38vcore. i have since moved over to custom loop. yesterday i attempted to push the oc a little higher to 4.9ghz. i kept getting freezing so i increased the vcore in 2 incremental steps per stability test freeze. once it stopped freezing i got a core stop using occt stress test so i upped the vcore a little more again. now comes this issue that is confusing me, i keep getting random frequency drops down to 1.4ghz, just for a second and then back up again during stressing. i upped the vcore a couple more times, testing inbetween each step but it just kept happening so i reverted back to my stable 4.7ghz.

Anyone have any idea what could be causing the frequency drops, i dont think its temps at all. after looking at the graphs occt puts out it looks like a freq drop coincided with a drop in vcore. but im not sure if that is a cause or a result of the freq drop.

Here are the OCCT outputs from the testing yesterday, if someone could take a look it may explain things a little better than i can.

EDIT - removed zip file and adding graphs as pics.







Edited by BranField - 5/18/15 at 2:12pm
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Hello people, i've been reading in the forums for some time now but never felt the need to write. I guess this is the time.

I have an FX9590 on a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, cooled by a CoolerMaster Nepton 280L with noiseblocker fans. I experience freezes during gaming, so I went and followed this guide to set the cpu running on a stable clock speed, in case some auto setting was messing with it. After setting the cpu at 4.7GHz i ran prime95 and the computer shut down at 90 degrees after 3 or so minutes. It was kinda shocking so i set the uefi to the default config and tried running prime again. The cpu sits at about 62 degrees with a socket temp of 75 to 80 at 100% load with the default settings.
Is it the luck of the draw? Bad silicon? Should i swap the cpu for something slower?

P.S. The case is the H440,loaded with fans and cleaned regularly.
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There is something wrong with your cooling as you should be seeing 50-55C @ 4.7.
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There is something wrong with your cooling as you should be seeing 50-55C @ 4.7.

I actually won't even offer up any other suggestion here. milk is absolutely correct.

I am seeing temps similar to yours at 4.9GHz on an ASRock board with a LEPA 240mm AIO
I have never seen a Saber hit that high of a socket temp, even with a higher core temp than yours. blinksmiley.gif
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I actually won't even offer up any other suggestion here. milk is absolutely correct.

I am seeing temps similar to yours at 4.9GHz on an ASRock board with a LEPA 240mm AIO
I have never seen a Saber hit that high of a socket temp, even with a higher core temp than yours. blinksmiley.gif

I'm getting officially worried now... tongue.gif So you guys suggest that there's something wrong with the airflow or with the AIO cooler?
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hi everyone.

I used this guide in the past to oc my 8350 when i was on my h100i, got to 4.7ghz @ 1.38vcore. i have since moved over to custom loop. yesterday i attempted to push the oc a little higher to 4.9ghz. i kept getting freezing so i increased the vcore in 2 incremental steps per stability test freeze. once it stopped freezing i got a core stop using occt stress test so i upped the vcore a little more again. now comes this issue that is confusing me, i keep getting random frequency drops down to 1.4ghz, just for a second and then back up again during stressing. i upped the vcore a couple more times, testing inbetween each step but it just kept happening so i reverted back to my stable 4.7ghz.

Have you tried running IBT AVX version at 4.7GHz? http://www.overclock.net/attachments/13202
If you can pass 20 runs on Very High some might call this gaming stable. I always pass 20 runs on maximum and than go for a 24 Prime95 run.
It's been a long time since I've run OCCT as it's fairly weak as far as stress tests go.

Freezing is usually a sign of a lack of Dram voltage or CPU/NB voltage, sometimes even a combination of the two.
You'll also need to play with Digi+ settings as you go. Especially with a higher clock.

Something to realize, some 8350's can do 4.9 others have a hard time stabilizing 4.8Ghz. Others can't get past 4.7GHz (stable).
Jumping from 4.7 to 4.9 is going to take some time if you're looking for stability. I never did my 8350 higher than 4822MHz @1.512v and have it 24 hr Prime95 stable.

Do you have active cooling on your VRM's?

I'd start back at 4.7 and check stability with IBT. Once you have that than move ahead and watch dram and cpu/nb voltages rather than just increase vcore.
At this level you'll be amazed how small of a voltage change can impact your OC. Think baby steps.

It might be helpful if we could see some bios snips to see where your at (F12 with a thumb drive in USB2.0 port).
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Dunno what the problem is, but this is what my 9590 did @ 4.7 on a Sabertooth with air cooling.
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I'm getting officially worried now... tongue.gif So you guys suggest that there's something wrong with the airflow or with the AIO cooler?

Could be a bad mount on the cpu block (needing better TIM)
Could/probably also be poor air flow through case.

Is the AIO intake or exhaust? I'd have it as intake.
Also think about adding a fan for both sides of the mobo. (VRM's and back of socket)

Have a look at my rig sig and you'll see what it takes to cool my 9590 biggrin.gif
These things do run hot, but you definitely have issues somewhere there with that crazy socket temp.
You didn't forget to peal back a protective film on the WB by chance? I've seen that more than once.

Welcome to OCN! (just noticed)
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Have you tried running IBT AVX version at 4.7GHz? http://www.overclock.net/attachments/13202
If you can pass 20 runs on Very High some might call this gaming stable. I always pass 20 runs on maximum and than go for a 24 Prime95 run.
It's been a long time since I've run OCCT as it's fairly weak as far as stress tests go.

Freezing is usually a sign of a lack of Dram voltage or CPU/NB voltage, sometimes even a combination of the two.
You'll also need to play with Digi+ settings as you go. Especially with a higher clock.

Something to realize, some 8350's can do 4.9 others have a hard time stabilizing 4.8Ghz. Others can't get past 4.7GHz (stable).
Jumping from 4.7 to 4.9 is going to take some time if you're looking for stability. I never did my 8350 higher than 4822MHz @1.512v and have it 24 hr Prime95 stable.

Do you have active cooling on your VRM's?

I'd start back at 4.7 and check stability with IBT. Once you have that than move ahead and watch dram and cpu/nb voltages rather than just increase vcore.
At this level you'll be amazed how small of a voltage change can impact your OC. Think baby steps.

It might be helpful if we could see some bios snips to see where your at (F12 with a thumb drive in USB2.0 port).

thanks for the detailed reply.

i have never run IBT at all but i will give it a shot. my OC to 4.7 was tested for around 8hours with OCCT and not had a problem with it for around a year now.

well i countered the freezing by adding more vcore and that worked, i did not change the Dram or CPU/NB voltages at all.

I do not have active cooling on my vrams, pics can be found on my W.I.P. build log in my sig.

Thanks, i will post some pics of my BIOS when i can and give it another crack. wont be for a little while as im at a friends wedding at the weekend. Damn people getting married, dont they know we have overclocking to do. biggrin.gif
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