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post #3641 of 4095
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I'd mount it in the top as intake with a push (or push/pull) fan setup.
The rear exhaust will do what's necessary and yes keep front as intake.

Or,
Swiftech H220x in front as intake and second rad in the top as intake and maybe a little upgrade to rear exhaust fan.

Consider an external mounted rad (XSPC Rasa kits). I use to run a RS360 externally. It came with mounting brackets which attached to the outside of the case at the rear exhaust fan location.
This would allow you to add the GPU into the loop in the future. It really pays to think ahead.

cant mount it correctly on the top since the ram sticks are blocking the rad and fan because they are both to thick together. And definitely cant get push pull setup on it. I did set it up with a pull config and i will test it out and mounting my extra fan at the back as exhaust. or what if i take the back as intake and the top as exhaust because i have no top fan atm i simply had push pull at the back on the rad.
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What do you currently see for temps?
Just curious.

Yeah you are right about the thermals becoming an issue when going from 4.7 to 4.8. It needs a good chunk of extra voltage.
At my current settings i peak at 52-54 with an ambient 20 in the room.

Also, after some testing (and thanks to all the in-depth knowledge here) reproducing the exact FX9590 settings on the 8350 seems quite impossible without some serious tinkering and extreme undervolting perhaps.

I tried a few times now and ran prime95 on a single core to see if it would boost all the way, but other than the occasional brief spike to 5GHz, it remained and hovered at just 4100MHz during the test.

But then again, I am not the most experienced guy when it comes to this stuff and I consider myself a fairly casual overclocker.
So I'll stick to my 4.7 on all cores since I need a stable work station/gaming platform.

in my experiance i never saw turbo active with win 7 and above as it tends to schedule things well enough anyway ( on my 8350 i could hit 4.1 24/7 but never 4.2 )
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Hi everyone i am a beginner at overclocking and i would like to get some more knowledge then the nice read i just got here.
I have a Amd fx-8320 3.5GHz and a corsair H60I cooler, after i read and did exactly what it said i was running prime95 and it got to 70 degrees celsius within first 2 min of testing first time on the 500mhz extra on the multiplier so total of 4.0GHz. If anyone could help me that would be great. I would like to reach between 4.5 - 4.7 if possible and temps under 60 degrees. Thank you all.
to add to the above ( fan on vrms!!! )
witho your cooler i bet you can hit ~ 4-4. at least
asus can ( on certain bios ) put cpu/nb to 1.4v, this is excessive and will cause high heat. also LLC if not changed usually is set to extreme ( auto = extreme ) --- in most cases
other then that we will need bios screen shots- fat32 formatted usb drive- put into usb2.0 usb slot and press f12 will tka epics of everything on your screen
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in my experiance i never saw turbo active with win 7 and above as it tends to schedule things well enough anyway ( on my 8350 i could hit 4.1 24/7 but never 4.2 )
to add to the above ( fan on vrms!!! )
witho your cooler i bet you can hit ~ 4-4. at least
asus can ( on certain bios ) put cpu/nb to 1.4v, this is excessive and will cause high heat. also LLC if not changed usually is set to extreme ( auto = extreme ) --- in most cases
other then that we will need bios screen shots- fat32 formatted usb drive- put into usb2.0 usb slot and press f12 will tka epics of everything on your screen
Here are my bios.
http://imgur.com/a/zyPXe
post #3644 of 4095
imo-

take cpu-nb to 1.2 ( generally enough you may need to take it to 1.25 but this adds heat the less you can use the better )
np to 1.2 ram set to 1.525 ( to combat any voltage drop )
LLc to high
cpu/nb llc regular

if you have a fan on the vrms 21

cpu power phase control - extreme --- this will cause vrm heat, do not do this without a fan on vrms !!!
cpu power response control either medium or fast ( ultra is fine but it makes the vrms very hot )


that is where i would start !
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Another person in search of help redface.gif

I'm overclocking the 8350 in my desktop, and bumping up against a wall around 4.6GHz. I think that's an OK place to heave anchor since I've still got an eye for high stability, but it'd be nice if someone could look over my settings and weigh in.

I tried to follow this guide closely, but some of the settings simply didn't work out on my machine.

I'm discussing the rig in my signature, but the short details are:
- AMD 8350
- Gigabyte 990-FXA-UD7
- Noctua NH-D14 cooler

System settings:
- DRAM: 1.5V
- CPU/NB: 2200Mhz
- HT Link: 2600Mhz
- Host clock: 210Mhz
- Clock multiplier: 22
- VCore: 1.44V
- LLC: Ultra High

Temperatures while loading the system with a prime number cruncher are around 50C.

If I touch the HT Link or CPU/NB speed, the system fails to POST.
Any higher frequency -- via either NB or multiplier -- and the system will boot, but fail checksums on the stress tool.

Next time I'm in bios I'll double check those numbers.
Edited by CTAG - 1/31/16 at 6:50pm
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More voltage. My 8320e is stable at 1.44v (hwinfo reading in Windows - that's not vdroop though). Since your LLC is already high, increase the vcore.

Off the top of my head, I forget my vdroop, although I know its a little above 1.416v.
Edited by umeng2002 - 1/31/16 at 6:42pm
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Another person in search of help redface.gif

I'm overclocking the 8350 in my desktop, and bumping up against a wall around 4.6GHz. I think that's an OK place to heave anchor since I've still got an eye for high stability, but it'd be nice if someone could look over my settings and weigh in.

I tried to follow this guide closely, but some of the settings simply didn't work out on my machine.

I'm discussing the rig in my signature, but the short details are:
- AMD 8350
- Gigabyte 990-FXA-UD7
- Noctua NH-D14 cooler

System settings:
- DRAM: 1.5V
- CPU/NB: 2200Mhz
- HT Link: 2600Mhz
- Host clock: 220Mhz
- Clock multiplier: 21
- VCore: 1.44V
- LLC: Ultra High

Temperatures while loading the system with a prime number cruncher are around 50C.

If I touch the HT Link or CPU/NB speed, the system fails to POST.
Any higher frequency -- via either NB or multiplier -- and the system will boot, but fail checksums on the stress tool.

Next time I'm in bios I'll double check those numbers.
I can help when I get home, basic gist bump nb by 0.1v ( to 1.2 if not done )

Assuming you have a review x12 cpu/nb multi is borked try x13 (2600) and you may/may not need more cpu/nb.

From personal experience ht is hard to oc. You will not be able to stress ht easily, I have to test with dvdfab to stress it, I run 3900 bit it is HIGHLY inadvisable to oc ht,

1 it won't help 99% of people

2 you WILL corrupt your hd and have to reinstall windows several times.

The only time it will really help is 3-4gpus. Your choice.

Other tidbits

Bump ram voltage up to like 1.55 or so.

Recommend some 2133 or 2400 ram

Only change 1 thing at a time and then stability test
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More voltage. My 8320e is stable at 1.44v (hwinfo reading in Windows - that's not vdroop though). Since your LLC is already high, increase the vcore.

Off the top of my head, I forget my vdroop, although I know its a little above 1.416v.

Thanks! I bumped the voltage to 1.49V and am now testing 4.7Ghz, it's lasted longer than initially, though 4.8Ghz still fails quickly. Frankly, I'm getting got cold feet at this voltage.
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I can help when I get home, basic gist bump nb by 0.1v ( to 1.2 if not done )

Assuming you have a review x12 cpu/nb multi is borked try x13 (2600) and you may/may not need more cpu/nb.

From personal experience ht is hard to oc. You will not be able to stress ht easily, I have to test with dvdfab to stress it, I run 3900 bit it is HIGHLY inadvisable to oc ht,

1 it won't help 99% of people

2 you WILL corrupt your hd and have to reinstall windows several times.

The only time it will really help is 3-4gpus. Your choice.

Other tidbits

Bump ram voltage up to like 1.55 or so.

Recommend some 2133 or 2400 ram

Only change 1 thing at a time and then stability test

Thanks for the tips!

NB Voltage is already 1.25V

I don't see a multiplier (x12) expressly on my bios, but the cpu/nb only works at 2200Mhz for the current settings. The options immediately above it are 2400 and 2600, both cause the system to fail to post.

I've got some 2400 ram, but enabling XMP or bumping the memory multiplier also causes a failure to post. Currently it's clocked around 1680Mhz with the stock 8.00 memory multiplier.

I'm also curious to know if mixing the cpu/nb and clock ratio is OK. I feel like there should be some balance there, but the guide looks like you either bump up the clock ratio or the cpu/nb, but not both..
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This guide is far outdated, I run 300 fsb 2400ram 2600cpunb and 3900ht.

Don't worry about volts several people pushing 1.6-1.7 24/7

If you can cook it you can clock it but verify your vrms are cool
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Hi all,

I've been trying to get a nice 24/7 overclock and I think that I'm decided on 4.4ghz (200x22). I'm having a few temp issues at the moment which require some money to rectify and I just can't stretch to it right at the moment, so even at 4.4ghz, the socket is getting a touch warm and into the high 60°C's (max ~68°C). It's fine for now and I generally keep a good eye on it but it will be addressed in the coming weeks.

I can prime @4.0ghz @1.2v but I've decided on 4.4ghx because I can hit that @1.308v idle which loads @1.32v (read by HwInfo64). BIOS reads idle @1.308v so I take these values to be accurate. To get to 4.5ghz I need to up it to 1.344v(load), and for 4.6ghz it takes 1.368v(load). CnQ is disabled at the moment but I do intend to enable it and the other power saving options. (All other settings are exactly as described in the 'Recommended Settings Up To 5.0ghz' section.)

Is there anything I adjust to lower my socket temps even slightly? VDDA voltage is @1.2520 (auto) and I already have a fan blowing on the VRM area and it has certainly helped, but really I need a full overhaul inside the case and to reposition my Corsair H70, or just a new case. Are there any other voltages/frequencies which relate directly to socket temp?

Also, do I have any options for TurboCore at these settings? I'm not 100% clear on that portion of the guide and have never touched TurboCore apart from disabling it at stock speeds when upping the multi or FSB OC'ing. I have a couple of FSB OCs (240 and 300 work well with my 1600mhz memory) but these seem to increase socket temps even more.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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