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post #3711 of 4095
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So, I gone back to the old settings (Vcore 1.272v / CPU NB 1.227v) and set the Memory Frequency at 1600Mhz, it passed on 10 runs on Very High, then I tried at 1866Mhz, again success...

Now that we narrowed it down to the RAM beeing the instability issue what should I try to do?
I really would like to make it stable with the RAM specs, before even think about higher CPU clocks.

How should I do it?

Stay on course at this point and continue CPU only OC. The Ram works at 1866MHz but at what voltage? Try slightly less (.05) than factory spec. We can come back and tighten timing later.
I'm sure by now you have those timings manually entered correct? Look back a couple posts where I posted my dram timings if your not sure what/where to enter.

It is possible your mobo isn't up to the task (with current settings) but maybe an equal chance that your CPU with THAT set of memory (2133MHz 4x4GB) just doesn't play well.
Have you tried running only two Dimms? This might be an alternative if nothing else works.
2x8GB would have been a better way to go. Creates less stress on IMC.
The 2133MHz could come in handy later on after you get a few things established. To soon to tell.

If you stay with all 4 dimms run them at 1866 with timings manually entered. Retest with that slightly lower Dram voltage.
It's always a good thing to lock in the Dram Driving Control Freq and retest. Just enter what you currently see listed, this keeps the bios from making any changes you don't know about.
Think, if you change Dram freq (1866 to 2133) or timings you'll want to reset these.

See how you make out and please post your current DIGI settings.
CPUZ under the memory tab will show your current Dram timings which is helpful when posting test results. Doesn't your HWInfo show timings with latest version? Mine does.

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Ok, so I ended up aswering my own questions, I tried to bump the DRAM voltage at 2133Mhz, and at 1.80v it's stable, I just passed on a IBT test on Very High.

So, it's SECURE to run it at that voltage 24/7? Should I use it like that?

I wouldn't run it like that. 1.8v for stock settings? Somethings up lol.
GSkill is known to usually clock pretty well. My 1866MHz (1.6v) kit runs stable as a rock even at 2400MHz without crazy voltage. 1.65v iirc.
Something there is definitely fighting you. If your system/memory was heavily OC'd it'd be a different story but no, I wouldn't run 1.8v for default settings.
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Stay on course at this point and continue CPU only OC. The Ram works at 1866MHz but at what voltage? Try slightly less (.05) than factory spec. We can come back and tighten timing later.
I'm sure by now you have those timings manually entered correct? Look back a couple posts where I posted my dram timings if your not sure what/where to enter.

It is possible your mobo isn't up to the task (with current settings) but maybe an equal chance that your CPU with THAT set of memory (2133MHz 4x4GB) just doesn't play well.
Have you tried running only two Dimms? This might be an alternative if nothing else works.
2x8GB would have been a better way to go. Creates less stress on IMC.
The 2133MHz could come in handy later on after you get a few things established. To soon to tell.

If you stay with all 4 dimms run them at 1866 with timings manually entered. Retest with that slightly lower Dram voltage.
It's always a good thing to lock in the Dram Driving Control Freq and retest. Just enter what you currently see listed, this keeps the bios from making any changes you don't know about.
Think, if you change Dram freq (1866 to 2133) or timings you'll want to reset these.

See how you make out and please post your current DIGI settings.
CPUZ under the memory tab will show your current Dram timings which is helpful when posting test results. Doesn't your HWInfo show timings with latest version? Mine does.
I wouldn't run it like that. 1.8v for stock settings? Somethings up lol.
GSkill is known to usually clock pretty well. My 1866MHz (1.6v) kit runs stable as a rock even at 2400MHz without crazy voltage. 1.65v iirc.
Something there is definitely fighting you. If your system/memory was heavily OC'd it'd be a different story but no, I wouldn't run 1.8v for default settings.

Sadly, memtest86 never got an error during the memory tests, to point it out as the culprit...
When I tried at 1866Mhz it was at 1.6v, didn't tweak arround it yet. Yes the timmings are all manually entered, even the Dram Driving Control, exactly to avoid BIOS changing automatically. I didn't try 2 dimms, but was also thinking about check it out.
Actually I was re-running IBT yesterday at 2133Mhz to post the snippet that I forgot to save, but it's not passing with exactly the same settings from before, so it's not fully stable.

I will take the weekend to do some tests at 1866Mhz, some game session and Prime95 too. I want to be sure that it's stable enough to call this my "stock" settings. The DIGI settings still the same, I'll post it later, and the timmings were the same, acctually I didn't tighten it to test at 1866Mhz, it was just a quick and dirty test, it still at 11-11-11-31 I will check on that too.

Also, my HWiNFO have the timming info too, but as I was not changing it I have select not to show, but I will put it back now.
Indeed I tought that 1.8v was too much, I saw your post saying you wouldn't go pass 1.70v - 1.75v, and even worse, for stock settings as you said.


Well, thanks again @The Sandman, I'm really grateful for your help, your were very kind (and patience). I will get back when I have more concrete stability tests to show, so we can continue the path to 5Ghz biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by A-rank - 2/26/16 at 3:42am
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hello overclock.net guys,
one dude told me today that bclk overclock could hurt my graphic card. is that true? because of something "if motherboard doesnt hold pci e bus fixed"
i have 8350 clocked to 4.4ghz with gigabyte 970a-ud3p, bclk 220, multiplier stock, memory multiplier lowered, voltage 1.4v, other settings i didnt configure
all stress tests are going good
googling i also found some cases of doubt that bclk killed their ssd

any thoughts?
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hello overclock.net guys,
one dude told me today that bclk overclock could hurt my graphic card. is that true? because of something "if motherboard doesnt hold pci e bus fixed"
i have 8350 clocked to 4.4ghz with gigabyte 970a-ud3p, bclk 220, multiplier stock, memory multiplier lowered, voltage 1.4v, other settings i didnt configure
all stress tests are going good
googling i also found some cases of doubt that bclk killed their ssd

any thoughts?

With AMD and HTT OCing you should ALWAYS manually enter 100mhz for PCIe Frequency.
Anything more is just asking for trouble.

When you have time give this a read http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig
it helps those helping you biggrin.gif
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believe it or not, i dont have option to set pci frequency manually, here is picture


and just to make sure, fsb/htt/bclk is the same thing?

so what should i do now, leave everything like it is, (its working good, no blue screens, every torture test is good) but keep in mind that i dont have a graphic card right now, i have but its old fanless nvidia 9200ge, playing only unreal tournament 1999)
i dont want any problems when real card comes, so should i revert bclk back to stock 200 and overclock 4.4ghz with multiplier only? but i read everywhere that bclk overclock is better frown.gif
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Overclocking using just the multi is the easiest and safest way to go as it only OC's the CPU while the motherboard and ram stay at standard clocks.

FSB OCing overclocks everything; the ram, motherboard, and the cpu. This makes it more complicated but does give slightly better results in tests if it is done correctly. But at your level of overclock the difference would not be noticed in everyday use. IMO fsb overclocking only makes a difference at 4.8 and above.

What you should do is what your cpu/motherboard likes best. I use two very different motherboards. One likes mostly multi and a little fsb while the other likes mostly fsb and a little multi. They both achieve about the same OC and have similar performance. So do what is best for your hardware.
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While he is right about it being easier see below
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believe it or not, i dont have option to set pci frequency manually, here is picture


and just to make sure, fsb/htt/bclk is the same thing?

so what should i do now, leave everything like it is, (its working good, no blue screens, every torture test is good) but keep in mind that i dont have a graphic card right now, i have but its old fanless nvidia 9200ge, playing only unreal tournament 1999)
i dont want any problems when real card comes, so should i revert bclk back to stock 200 and overclock 4.4ghz with multiplier only? but i read everywhere that bclk overclock is better frown.gif

You don't need to worry about it on Gigabyte boards (am3+) I run 300 fsb without issue

Also have never heard of ocing pcie breaking gpus, but it can corrupt data ( ssds / hdds )

The fsb statement is more true with intels as intels lock the pcie to the fsb
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Stay on course at this point and continue CPU only OC. The Ram works at 1866MHz but at what voltage? Try slightly less (.05) than factory spec. We can come back and tighten timing later.
I'm sure by now you have those timings manually entered correct? Look back a couple posts where I posted my dram timings if your not sure what/where to enter.

It is possible your mobo isn't up to the task (with current settings) but maybe an equal chance that your CPU with THAT set of memory (2133MHz 4x4GB) just doesn't play well.
Have you tried running only two Dimms? This might be an alternative if nothing else works.
2x8GB would have been a better way to go. Creates less stress on IMC.
The 2133MHz could come in handy later on after you get a few things established. To soon to tell.

If you stay with all 4 dimms run them at 1866 with timings manually entered. Retest with that slightly lower Dram voltage.
It's always a good thing to lock in the Dram Driving Control Freq and retest. Just enter what you currently see listed, this keeps the bios from making any changes you don't know about.
Think, if you change Dram freq (1866 to 2133) or timings you'll want to reset these.

See how you make out and please post your current DIGI settings.
CPUZ under the memory tab will show your current Dram timings which is helpful when posting test results. Doesn't your HWInfo show timings with latest version? Mine does.
I wouldn't run it like that. 1.8v for stock settings? Somethings up lol.
GSkill is known to usually clock pretty well. My 1866MHz (1.6v) kit runs stable as a rock even at 2400MHz without crazy voltage. 1.65v iirc.
Something there is definitely fighting you. If your system/memory was heavily OC'd it'd be a different story but no, I wouldn't run 1.8v for default settings.


I finally got it fully stable.
Here are my settings with the LLC that you asked @The Sandman.
I mannaged to get all the power saving features on, just need to bump a bit the Vcore to get it at the same voltage it was before inside Windows. But sadly I couldn't get my RAM to run @1866Mhz at 9-9-9.

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Frequencies.


Voltages.


LLC Settings.


Power Saving features.



And here are my test results.

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IBT 20 passes on Very High.



IBT 10 passes on Maximum.



Prime95 for 12 hours.


Prime95 results.

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I don't think I have much thermal margin to go further, CPU Socket Temp limit it's 72ºC and 60ºC on the Core right? Especially the Prime95 results show temps almost on that limit. Also I tried to get the CPU at 4,2Ghz with the same voltage but couldn't stabilize. Tried at 4,4Ghz with 1.325v but couldn't stabilize too, probably would have it increase it even more and the temps were getting higher (obviously).

What do you think?
Edited by A-rank - 2/29/16 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by A-rank View Post

I finally got it fully stable.
Here are my settings with the LLC that you asked @The Sandman.
I mannaged to get all the power saving features on, just need to bump a bit the Vcore to get it at the same voltage it was before inside Windows. But sadly I couldn't get my RAM to run @1866Mhz at 9-9-9.


I don't think I have much thermal margin to go further, CPU Socket Temp limit it's 72ºC and 60ºC on the Core right? Especially the Prime95 results show temps almost on that limit. Also I tried to get the CPU at 4,2Ghz with the same voltage but couldn't stabilize. Tried at 4,4Ghz with 1.325v but couldn't stabilize too, probably would have it increase it even more and the temps were getting higher (obviously).

What do you think?

I think you're well on your way now, good job!
But I wouldn't claim fully stable yet. If it makes you feel any better I just failed P95 at 16 1/2 hrs in on a new OC lol.
Remember most claim 24 hr for full stability.

Depending on where you read AMD's AOD "Thermal Margin" shows 70-72c max for CPU Core temp but the AMD Product Resource Center claims Max temp of 61c http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CPU/AMD-FX-Series/AMD-FX-8-Core-Black-Edition/FX-8350/92. I role with the first solution personally. (AOD)

Where did you come up with 72c for Socket temp?
From what I've come across/remember max socket temp on Asus mobos is 80ish (10c higher than core temp) and never have seen a link to documentation.

This brings up another point. Notice the 20c difference between your core and socket temps?
This can easily be lowered by adding an old HS fan mounted directly to blow onto VRM/Socket area. (remember lol?)
Most strive for a max diff of 10c. 20c diff is more than enough to cause heat soak (VRM to Socket) and is usually a good sign of excess VRM temps which is common with an octacore when under H2O.
When you remove CPU cooler w/fan you also remove any air flow over VRMs. Not a good thing. You'll want to replace that lost air flow. It will help the socket.

Once you have CPU Socket temp under control you have a little headroom but remember the temps don't scale evenly with added Vcore. You've already seen this right?
That H55 will be the next issue temp wise but holding on for now.

In Bios it's best to Disable
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIe " "
EPU Power Saving Mode
and I won't mention that 2600MHz NB again biggrin.gif
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I think you're well on your way now, good job!
But I wouldn't claim fully stable yet. If it makes you feel any better I just failed P95 at 16 1/2 hrs in on a new OC lol.
Remember most claim 24 hr for full stability.

Depending on where you read AMD's AOD "Thermal Margin" shows 70-72c max for CPU Core temp but the AMD Product Resource Center claims Max temp of 61c http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/CPU/AMD-FX-Series/AMD-FX-8-Core-Black-Edition/FX-8350/92. I role with the first solution personally. (AOD)

Where did you come up with 72c for Socket temp?
From what I've come across/remember max socket temp on Asus mobos is 80ish (10c higher than core temp) and never have seen a link to documentation.

This brings up another point. Notice the 20c difference between your core and socket temps?
This can easily be lowered by adding an old HS fan mounted directly to blow onto VRM/Socket area. (remember lol?)
Most strive for a max diff of 10c. 20c diff is more than enough to cause heat soak (VRM to Socket) and is usually a good sign of excess VRM temps which is common with an octacore when under H2O.
When you remove CPU cooler w/fan you also remove any air flow over VRMs. Not a good thing. You'll want to replace that lost air flow. It will help the socket.

Once you have CPU Socket temp under control you have a little headroom but remember the temps don't scale evenly with added Vcore. You've already seen this right?
That H55 will be the next issue temp wise but holding on for now.

In Bios it's best to Disable
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIe " "
EPU Power Saving Mode
and I won't mention that 2600MHz NB again biggrin.gif


I know most people claim 24 hours on Prime95 to comprove stability, but one full pass on IBT at maximum and 12 hours on Prime95 it's enough for me, at least for now (4Ghz).

Oh, good to know that I still have some margin to OC, I don't know where I saw about the 72ºC, probably I made a mistake and it's the CPU Core limit as you said.
I do remember about the fan you said to use blowing directly on the VRM, I tried it, but I don't know where to fix it, can you show me some image of how can I do that?
And yes, I tought about that, indeed if I success I'm thinking about a H80i because my case only allow 120mm radioators, so it's the best I can get and will problably use the H55 on the bottom for the GPU that still with the stock cooler.

About the settings in BIOS you recommended to disable, should I disable even for normal daily usage?
I activate those settings, including the 2600Mhz NB after a first passes on all those tests, then I tested it all again, to save these as my "stock" settings...
I know I should disable all the power saving features when OCing, and I already did when I tried, including those you mentioned and Cool and Quiet, APM, etc. and returned the NB to the stock 2200Mhz, I know I would only try that after getting a fully stable system, right?
Edited by A-rank - 3/1/16 at 4:25pm
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