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post #4041 of 4065
Just installed a replacement h80i (rubber base of the tubes became brittle after 4 yrs)

Anyway I had it OC to 4.6 for all that time and hadn't touched it. With the new one installed I had to redo the OC (which I didnt even remember how) but went through instructions on this thread and it looks good.

My question (and I know it pretty stupid) but ComputerRestore says "If your system Freezes or BSOD after increasing the CPU Ratio by one point then increase your CPU Manual Voltage by three points and run Prime95 again."

What exactly constitutes 1 point? My stock voltage is 1.3322 and my CPU runs at 4.5 perfect, all cores in the FFT test. Raise it to 4.6 and my computer BSOD before it gets to windows. What Is "3 points"? Would that be 1.36 or 1.6?

thank you

*********Resolved (I think)************

Ok after going through a bunch of these threads I've yet to see anyone with a voltage much higher than 1.4-1.5 so no way 3 points can mean 1.6 (relative to my 1.33)
So I upped it to 1.36 (and when you click enter it changes it to 1.362500 something) and then my computer booted right into windows at 4.6.

Then one core failed in FFT so I bumped up the voltage to 1.37 and its running steady at 4.6 for 15 minutes in FFT no core stops. I see it now lol
Edited by DatDirtyDawG - 4/7/17 at 7:25pm
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So after hours on end I found a stable OC at 4.7Ghz. What's really strange is that at stock voltage it ran at 4.5Ghz. At only 1.33 I was pretty ecstatic thinking I had tons of room to work with. However for me to run at a stable 4.7Ghz (and it is after 8 hours of Prime 95) it took a voltage setting of 1.47...

Now everything seems pretty sweet except for the CPU temp. Under load it runs at around 69-70c and about once per hour it touches 72-73 at least for about 20-25 seconds. My core temps however stay at 51-56c and NEVER a point above. In fact the 56 is about once an hour for about a minute and then back to 51-52-51-51-54 cycle.

Im guessing I could probably use a small ghetto rigged fan over my VRMs right? Idle my cores are 21c and CPU is 33c

Anyway any suggestions would be great. Also my H80i and attached fans are pretty much in front of the VRMs. I don't know how much space there is between the top of the VRM and the side of the H80
Edited by DatDirtyDawG - 4/8/17 at 12:10pm
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So after hours on end I found a stable OC at 4.7Ghz. What's really strange is that at stock voltage it ran at 4.5Ghz. At only 1.33 I was pretty ecstatic thinking I had tons of room to work with. However for me to run at a stable 4.7Ghz (and it is after 8 hours of Prime 95) it took a voltage setting of 1.47...

Now everything seems pretty sweet except for the CPU temp. Under load it runs at around 69-70c and about once per hour it touches 72-73 at least for about 20-25 seconds. My core temps however stay at 51-56c and NEVER a point above. In fact the 56 is about once an hour for about a minute and then back to 51-52-51-51-54 cycle.

Im guessing I could probably use a small ghetto rigged fan over my VRMs right? Idle my cores are 21c and CPU is 33c

Anyway any suggestions would be great. Also my H80i and attached fans are pretty much in front of the VRMs. I don't know how much space there is between the top of the VRM and the side of the H80

Same with mine as far as voltage. +0.075 offset lets me clock all the way to 4.6, but anything after that it takes +.15 offset (with LLC factored in that's 1.52v under full load). I can do up to 4.8 like that, but Prime load temps are crazy at those levels (46-50*C over room temp). Granted under normal usage temps. are not that high, but still. These things are pigs.
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Same with mine as far as voltage. +0.075 offset lets me clock all the way to 4.6, but anything after that it takes +.15 offset (with LLC factored in that's 1.52v under full load). I can do up to 4.8 like that, but Prime load temps are crazy at those levels (46-50*C over room temp). Granted under normal usage temps. are not that high, but still. These things are pigs.


I know right? Man how they need voltage. Oh and I can go all the way down to 1.40 to run it at 4.6, it's like that last 100mhz is so ridiculously expensive. I just became obsessed lol, At the beginning of all this I thought I was going to breeze into 4.8 (baaasmiley.gif


Certainly not going to even attempt 4.8 without going nuts and changing my cooler and I just don't think it would be worth it. For that I would try to hit 5+ Anyway I feel like I'm there with a 4.7 but I'm just not 100% with those CPU temps under load. Maybe I'll go down to 4.6 as I'll save so many voltage points for that 1point.

For what it's worth 4.6 from your 8320 is pretty bad ass. And on air? You got like the best chip in the bin when yours was boxed lol. Prob sent you an 8350 in the wrong box lol
Edited by DatDirtyDawG - 4/12/17 at 4:04pm
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I know right? Man how they need voltage. Oh and I can go all the way down to 1.40 to run it at 4.6, it's like that last gig is so ridiculously expensive. I just became obsessed lol, At the beginning of all this I thought I was going to breeze into 4.8 (baaasmiley.gif


Certainly not going to even attempt 4.8 without going nuts and changing my cooler and I just don't think it would be worth it. For that I would try to hit 5+ Anyway I feel like I'm there with a 4.7 but I'm just not 100% with those CPU temps under load. Maybe I'll go down to 4.6 as I'll save so many voltage points for that 1 gig.

For what it's worth 4.6 from your 8320 is pretty bad ass. And on air? You got like the best chip in the bin when yours was boxed lol. Prob sent you an 8350 in the wrong box lol

On air. I have no AC, so room temps get to around 40*C during spring and Summer. It's killer. Had to swap the stock NH-D15 fans for a pair of TY-143s.
Yeah, 4.6 is the sweet spot for me. Pumping nearly twice the volts for 100mhz is not really worth it in benches or games. 4.8 does show gains, but I'm at a temp. wall. System shuts down once CPU temps. hit 85*C. I decided instead to OC the NB (2.6) and my RAM. RAM does 2133mhz at 1.65v, but I really don't want to push the sticks that much (faulty/failing RAM is the thing I hate the most when it comes to PCs).
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Hi. I need help again. I switched to a normal OC after my problems with the other one, but I seem to getting freezing no matter how much voltage I apply.
CPU LLC - Ultra High
CPU/NB LLC - High
CPU Current Capability - 130%
CPU/NB Current Capability - 130%
CPU Power Phase Control - Extreme
CPU Power Duty Control - Extreme
CPU Power Thermal Control - 130
FSB - 200
4.9GHz
VCORE - 1.51V
DRAM V - 1.59V
Ram is running at XMP #2 profile but it passed 3 rounds of MemTest86+ so I don't think it's the one that's causing the freezes.
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Hi. I need help again. I switched to a normal OC after my problems with the other one, but I seem to getting freezing no matter how much voltage I apply.
CPU LLC - Ultra High
CPU/NB LLC - High
CPU Current Capability - 130%
CPU/NB Current Capability - 130%
CPU Power Phase Control - Extreme
CPU Power Duty Control - Extreme
CPU Power Thermal Control - 130
FSB - 200
4.9GHz
VCORE - 1.51V
DRAM V - 1.59V
Ram is running at XMP #2 profile but it passed 3 rounds of MemTest86+ so I don't think it's the one that's causing the freezes.

Don't go too aggressive with the CPU LLC, I get instability if I set it above "medium."
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Don't go too aggressive with the CPU LLC, I get instability if I set it above "medium."
Actually, I instantly lose stability even with my stable OC's if I back down with CPU LLC
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Actually, I instantly lose stability even with my stable OC's if I back down with CPU LLC

Then up your voltage setting (number or offset) and turn down the LLC.

In theory, adding LLC should make it more stable, but with my Asus Sabertooth, lowering the CPU voltage and increasing the LLC (to try and get the same Vdroop under heavy load) causes me to lose stability.

It might have something to do with how Asus does LLC.
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Then up your voltage setting (number or offset) and turn down the LLC.

In theory, adding LLC should make it more stable, but with my Asus Sabertooth, lowering the CPU voltage and increasing the LLC (to try and get the same Vdroop under heavy load) causes me to lose stability.

It might have something to do with how Asus does LLC.
1.51V is well over the thermal limit with Prime, I can't up the voltage, but I should be able to do 4.9 with 1.51V...
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