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Okay I should mention that I'm on Windows 8 so I'm not sure if they have that fix for available. Also when I was running Intel Burn Test my PC failed the 9th test so I had to bump the vcore up one notch and it was able to pass 50 tests on standard stress level. Also, I might need to get a better cooler because I noticed that during stress testing my PC throttles itself when the socket reaches 61 degrees C. I'm not entirely sure if the core temperature HWMonitor gives is completely accurate because it usually says the CPU is around 30 to 40 degrees C when the socket temperature is 61 degrees C.

I should also mention that when I was just doing stuff like internet browsing when overclocked it was actually slower and would sometimes freeze requiring a hard reboot because I couldn't open up Task Manager or anything like that, also the mouse cursor in Counter Strike: Global Offensive's main menu was really laggy, and when I reset my bios to its stock configuration, the performance in basic stuff like internet browsing was a lot better. Also, when I was overclocked my PC froze on me after a couple hours of Skyrim because I tried to use Steam's in-game internet browser and it froze when I tried to scroll down a link I clicked, it had a longer than usual load time also.

Sadly, Win8 does not have a fix currently. Although there are a couple workarounds available on Youtube.

If there is not enough cooling on the socket heatsink, it will rise faster than the CPU. If you havent already, try the extra fan method explained in the Tips section of the guide.

If you are still crashing and freezing, it would suggest a RAM issue.
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Sadly, Win8 does not have a fix currently. Although there are a couple workarounds available on Youtube.

If there is not enough cooling on the socket heatsink, it will rise faster than the CPU. If you havent already, try the extra fan method explained in the Tips section of the guide.

If you are still crashing and freezing, it would suggest a RAM issue.

So if the socket's max temperature is 72 degrees C as explained in the guide, 61 degrees C would be good right? Also, would getting a closed-loop liquid cooler help with socket temperature or does it only affect CPU cooling? Also, how long should it take for Windows 8 to receive such a patch?
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So if the socket's max temperature is 72 degrees C as explained in the guide, 61 degrees C would be good right? Also, would getting a closed-loop liquid cooler help with socket temperature or does it only affect CPU cooling? Also, how long should it take for Windows 8 to receive such a patch?
Yes, Socket temp of 61C is fine.
And no, the socket temp would not be affected much with a closed loop cooler. Thats why the tips section in the guide shows putting a small fan on top or behind the heatsink next to the CPU. So it can get its own airflow.

ANd there really is no telling when Win8 will receive a patch for that.
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So if the socket's max temperature is 72 degrees C as explained in the guide, 61 degrees C would be good right? Also, would getting a closed-loop liquid cooler help with socket temperature or does it only affect CPU cooling? Also, how long should it take for Windows 8 to receive such a patch?

Hi CannedBullets -

Keeping the CPU cool does effect Socket Temps.
It generally works like this
Socket Temps
8 Core CPU: 10-15 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load
6 Core CPU: 7-10 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load
4 Core CPU: 0-7 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load

If your Socket Temp is greater than that range, then you need better case airflow. A fan on the VRM or blowing on the back of the socket will help as well.

Not sure what settings ASRock has, but it's generally the Power Saving Features or HPC Mode being Disabled that will cause throttling when the Socket reaches a certain temperature.

Windows 8 already has the AMD Module Design patches built into it. So you wont have to worry about updates for that.
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Hi CannedBullets -

Keeping the CPU cool does effect Socket Temps.
It generally works like this
Socket Temps
8 Core CPU: 10-15 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load
6 Core CPU: 7-10 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load
4 Core CPU: 0-7 C greater than Core Temp @ 100% Load

If your Socket Temp is greater than that range, then you need better case airflow. A fan on the VRM or blowing on the back of the socket will help as well.

Not sure what settings ASRock has, but it's generally the Power Saving Features or HPC Mode being Disabled that will cause throttling when the Socket reaches a certain temperature.

Windows 8 already has the AMD Module Design patches built into it. So you wont have to worry about updates for that.

There was another member having issues with HPC mode CAUSING his system to throttle down at load. Devdevil85 I believe. I talked with him at length about that. When he disabled it again, the throttling went away.

Might have been a fluke error though.
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You know I think I have HPC mode enabled, I'll have to check my bios again. So the socket temperature getting 61 degrees C is good right? Which means the core temp is around 54 degrees C if the core temp is 7 degrees C less than the socket temp for FX 6-cores right? I know I have all the power saving features disabled but I think HPC mode is still enabled. Maybe HPC mode is causing me to freeze?

Except I'm freezing in minor stuff like internet browsing for some reason.
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You know I think I have HPC mode enabled, I'll have to check my bios again. So the socket temperature getting 61 degrees C is good right? Which means the core temp is around 54 degrees C if the core temp is 7 degrees C less than the socket temp for FX 6-cores right? I know I have all the power saving features disabled but I think HPC mode is still enabled. Maybe HPC mode is causing me to freeze?

It may be, just saying there may be a slight chance. SInce there was one other member who had that issue and ran Windows 8.

ComputerRestore would know more on that than I.

And IMO those temps look good. One thing to look at, try turning down your NB speed if you havent already, to 2000Mhz maybe.
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It may be, just saying there may be a slight chance. SInce there was one other member who had that issue and ran Windows 8.

ComputerRestore would know more on that than I.

And IMO those temps look good. One thing to look at, try turning down your NB speed if you havent already, to 2000Mhz maybe.

Well my NB speed is at stock, the same goes for NB voltage. I set the bus speed to manual at its stock value of 200 but that didn't do anything. I mean if HPC mode causes issues under load, why was my PC freezing during minor stuff like internet browsing?
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Well my NB speed is at stock, the same goes for NB voltage. I set the bus speed to manual at its stock value of 200 but that didn't do anything. I mean if HPC mode causes issues under load, why was my PC freezing during minor stuff like internet browsing?
Try turning your Nb speed down to 2000, stock is 2200 I believe.

The freezes under minimal load suggest to me that it is a RAM issue. But I could very well be mistaken. Is your RAM overclocked at all?
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Try turning your Nb speed down to 2000, stock is 2200 I believe.

The freezes under minimal load suggest to me that it is a RAM issue. But I could very well be mistaken. Is your RAM overclocked at all?

My RAM is not overclocked, my motherboard autodetected it at 1333 mhz RAM but I bumped it back up to 1600 mhz because that is the marketed speed for it. The timings are on marketed speed also and its dual channel.
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