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You know I think I have HPC mode enabled, I'll have to check my bios again. So the socket temperature getting 61 degrees C is good right? Which means the core temp is around 54 degrees C if the core temp is 7 degrees C less than the socket temp for FX 6-cores right? I know I have all the power saving features disabled but I think HPC mode is still enabled. Maybe HPC mode is causing me to freeze?

Except I'm freezing in minor stuff like internet browsing for some reason.

To elaborate on what I posted.

@ 100% Load if the Socket Temp is greater than 7-10C than your Core/Package temp then you need better case airflow. It's not a way of measuring your core temp.

It's possible that on the ASRock motherboards HPC causes issues. HPC seems to operate differently for all manufacturers.
LLC Functions can also cause Freezing - for example on some of the M5A97 Asus boards, running anything other than Auto LLC will cause issues.

If you are running stock Ram, NB, HTT etc and adding extra CPU or CPU/NB voltage doesn't help, then you should look further into your BIOS settings.
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My RAM is not overclocked, my motherboard autodetected it at 1333 mhz RAM but I bumped it back up to 1600 mhz because that is the marketed speed for it. The timings are on marketed speed also and its dual channel.

Have you set your RAM voltage up to compensate for the "overclock" of the RAM? To me, that sounds like the issue.
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Have you set your RAM voltage up to compensate for the "overclock" of the RAM? To me, that sounds like the issue.

I haven't put my RAM voltage up. Its on auto so it should be at 1.5v because my RAM runs at 1.5v on 1600 mhz.

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To elaborate on what I posted.

@ 100% Load if the Socket Temp is greater than 7-10C than your Core/Package temp then you need better case airflow. It's not a way of measuring your core temp.

It's possible that on the ASRock motherboards HPC causes issues. HPC seems to operate differently for all manufacturers.
LLC Functions can also cause Freezing - for example on some of the M5A97 Asus boards, running anything other than Auto LLC will cause issues.

If you are running stock Ram, NB, HTT etc and adding extra CPU or CPU/NB voltage doesn't help, then you should look further into your BIOS settings.

I have LLC disabled because on the ASRock Extreme series thread in the motherboard forum they said I should have it disabled for FX CPUs. I haven't tinkered with the NB voltage at all though, I left that on stock.
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I haven't put my RAM voltage up. Its on auto so it should be at 1.5v because my RAM runs at 1.5v on 1600 mhz.
I have LLC disabled because on the ASRock Extreme series thread in the motherboard forum they said I should have it disabled for FX CPUs. I haven't tinkered with the NB voltage at all though, I left that on stock.
Ok, thats fine then for the voltage.

For LLC, I know mine was wonky until i got the latest BIOS update when I had the ASRock 970 Extreme4. But LLC helps quite a bit with Vdroop and possible crashes.

Remember, each motherboard will operate differently from another's. Just because an entire forum says not to do something with your board, if it wont work the way they say it should, You're left with doing what they tell you not to do.

Like in Devdevil85's case, HPC, in the guide, should be turned on. But in his case, it needed to be turned off in order for his system to maintain stability.
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Hmm, maybe I have to enable LLC. I'm not sure whether or not to put it to auto or enabled. Because when I throttle under load my voltage goes from like 1.36 to 0.88 and my clockspeed drops to 1.4 ghz. I've also found out something weird and its that I don't have a setting for HPC mode in the motherboard bios at all. Iooked at every setting and every page in the motherboard bios but I cannot find it at all. I don't know if ASRock has a different name for it but even if it did I'm sure I could have found it, but right now my motherboard has no option for HPC mode and I'm on the latest bios version also.
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I haven't put my RAM voltage up. Its on auto so it should be at 1.5v because my RAM runs at 1.5v on 1600 mhz.
I have LLC disabled because on the ASRock Extreme series thread in the motherboard forum they said I should have it disabled for FX CPUs. I haven't tinkered with the NB voltage at all though, I left that on stock.

No wonder it is throttling, the llc is used to control the voltages when oc'ing, if your ram is stock, everything else is more or less stock and your having issues id say its likely to be the llc being disabled, set it to auto and see if it helps the browsing etc.

Using an asrock guide then jumping on here for advice i find a little strange though
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No wonder it is throttling, the llc is used to control the voltages when oc'ing, if your ram is stock, everything else is more or less stock and your having issues id say its likely to be the llc being disabled, set it to auto and see if it helps the browsing etc.

Using an asrock guide then jumping on here for advice i find a little strange though

Well it wasn't an ASRock guide, it was more of an ASRock Extreme series owners club and they said I should leave LLC disabled if I can't set my LLC to 1/2 LLC (which I can't, the only options are enabled, auto, and disabled). Also I checked my NB speed and voltage, they're both at stock values and the stock speed for NB multiplier for me is 2000 mhz. In hindsight, I should have spent more money for an Asus board in 8+2 phase because Asus seems to have the best community support for overclocking.

But would LLC really help for my freezing during internet browsing issue? I thought that was mainly for helping prevent vdroop under load.
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Well it wasn't an ASRock guide, it was more of an ASRock Extreme series owners club and they said I should leave LLC disabled if I can't set my LLC to 1/2 LLC (which I can't, the only options are enabled, auto, and disabled). Also I checked my NB speed and voltage, they're both at stock values and the stock speed for NB multiplier for me is 2000 mhz. In hindsight, I should have spent more money for an Asus board in 8+2 phase because Asus seems to have the best community support for overclocking.

But would LLC really help for my freezing during internet browsing issue? I thought that was mainly for helping prevent vdroop under load.
Yes, it definitely would help. When your CPU goes under heavy load, or any load, that LLC helps maintain a stable voltage and in turn a stable clock speed. Your clock speed is dropping because it cannot maintain the proper voltage to do so.
Setting it to Auto helped when I had my ASRock board.
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Yes, it definitely would help. When your CPU goes under heavy load, or any load, that LLC helps maintain a stable voltage and in turn a stable clock speed. Your clock speed is dropping because it cannot maintain the proper voltage to do so.
Setting it to Auto helped when I had my ASRock board.

Okay, so it could be LLC which is the issue. So putting LLC on auto could make it stable during minor stuff like internet browsing right? Also, what's the difference between enabled and auto for LLC?
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Okay, so it could be LLC which is the issue. So putting LLC on auto could make it stable during minor stuff like internet browsing right? Also, what's the difference between enabled and auto for LLC?
Honestly, you will have to set it to each, and test for yourself whether it helps or not. It may be different for you than it was for me.
But setting it to auto or enabled might help with your freezing under minimal load. Test it out and see.
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