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Raising the NB voltage will begin to increase temps a little.. But, you're going to have to experiment with these things to see what your particular CPU wants to maintain stability. We can help you as much as we are able, but each and every CPU will require slightly different voltages to maintain the same results. So Joe Blo says he needs 1.37V to get to 4.2 Ghz might be what his CPU wanted. Yours might not need that much to reach the same speed, or it might need even more.

The major point of overclocking is to test *yourself* what your computers limits are. Not to see what others have gotten to and immediately think your system will do the exact same as theirs did.

The stock NB voltage should be plenty for the clock you are trying to achieve. So I wouldnt bother messing with it, and just set it out of your mind for now. Focus on what is right in front of you. At your current clock, with your current voltage, is your system stable under IBT(10 runs of Standard), do you still experience throttling. If you are not stable, bump your voltage a notch or two. If your system still throttles, Look HERE for a few tips to try and resolve it. Like ComputerRestore said earlier, Windows 8 was supposed to have those core parking fixes implemented already, so unless it is a bug with your BIOS, there may be a setting somewhere that has been overlooked.

Well, my system was stable for ten runs of IBT on standard, but it failed the 20th run. I don't think my cores are parked under load because Speedfan says 100% of my CPU is being used across all cores during stress testing. Man, if its a bug with the bios like you suggested I don't know what to do.

I thought setting Windows to high performance mode was just for laptops. Would setting it to high performance mode for me make it look like the Windows 2000 layout?
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Well, my system was stable for ten runs of IBT on standard, but it failed the 20th run. I don't think my cores are parked under load because Speedfan says 100% of my CPU is being used across all cores during stress testing. Man, if its a bug with the bios like you suggested I don't know what to do.

I thought setting Windows to high performance mode was just for laptops. Would setting it to high performance mode for me make it look like the Windows 2000 layout?
It's the most useful for laptops, but there are settings that are in there for both desktops and laptops. Mainly the one listed as "processor power management". And no, it will not set the theme to Windows 2000. If it does, for some reason, you can change it back easily.

Speedfan wont show you if your cores are parking, Open CPU-Z and watch the Clocks section as you're testing. If core parking is still being activated for whatever reason, you will see your clock drop tremendously.
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It's the most useful for laptops, but there are settings that are in there for both desktops and laptops. Mainly the one listed as "processor power management". And no, it will not set the theme to Windows 2000. If it does, for some reason, you can change it back easily.

Speedfan wont show you if your cores are parking, Open CPU-Z and watch the Clocks section as you're testing. If core parking is still being activated for whatever reason, you will see your clock drop tremendously.

Huh, well I had CPU-Z open and my clockspeed was dropping also, but it wasn't dropping when I had LLC enabled and the voltage set to 1.35, it still showed up as instable, so maybe I have to bump up the north bridge up a notch?
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Huh, well I had CPU-Z open and my clockspeed was dropping also, but it wasn't dropping when I had LLC enabled and the voltage set to 1.35, it still showed up as instable, so maybe I have to bump up the north bridge up a notch?

I would try bumping up the CPU voltage first. Thats more often than not, the cause of instability if the NB has not been altered.
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I would try bumping up the CPU voltage first. Thats more often than not, the cause of instability if the NB has not been altered.

Alright I'll try that when I have more time, hopefully my CPU doesn't get too hot, 62 degrees for the socket is good though right? Because if the core tmep is 7 degrees less than the socket temp, it should be good. I'm just afraid my motherboard will burn out because its a 4+1 phase board.
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Alright I'll try that when I have more time, hopefully my CPU doesn't get too hot, 62 degrees for the socket is good though right? Because if the core tmep is 7 degrees less than the socket temp, it should be good. I'm just afraid my motherboard will burn out because its a 4+1 phase board.

Look at your actual temps when stressing. dont just assume that if your socket temp is 62 that your cpu temp will be 7C below that. HWMonitor, HWInfo, CoreTemp all will give you "fairly" accurate temps readings. And they may differ.
You will be able to overclock your board to 4.1-4.2Ghz on that board. Just because it has 4+1 phase doesnt mean it WILL blow up when an 8+2 phase board wont. It just means the limits that board can handle may be less than a stronger phase board.
Like we've said, it just takes time, patience and trial and error to find the sweet spot for your CPU

I know it is possible to overclock on a 4+1 phase board cause I had an ASRock 970 Extreme4 with an AMD Propus 620 Overclocked from 2.6Ghz to 3.2Ghz with a Hyper 212+.Never had any issues with the board being under powered or inadequate.
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I am sorry. I have been following this thread for a long while and the OP answered a lot of my questions about ASUS motherboard overclocking stability. Because of the advice I was able to get my FX-8120 to 4.5GHz everyday stable without the overheating I had before. Any I don't mean to speak out of turn but this thread is going around in circles. The questions are the same and the answers never change. Now this isn't my thread but I appreciate the teachings it has from those that have experience but I must advise that before any questions need to be asked then everything must be tried from the original post first and then if there is no success after everything has been tried then we can ask advice. If there is something that comes up that is not on the original post I have witnessed the updates made from the original poster to the first posts so when we access this thread we can find what we need in the first post instead of repeating the same mistakes. The more times we repeat the same issue the longer the thread will become and the harder to search for what we are looking for inparticular. I promise that it is not very often that I state opinions in this forum but I thought it was important this time and I won't say anymore. Thanks for listening
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I am sorry. I have been following this thread for a long while and the OP answered a lot of my questions about ASUS motherboard overclocking stability. Because of the advice I was able to get my FX-8120 to 4.5GHz everyday stable without the overheating I had before. Any I don't mean to speak out of turn but this thread is going around in circles. The questions are the same and the answers never change. Now this isn't my thread but I appreciate the teachings it has from those that have experience but I must advise that before any questions need to be asked then everything must be tried from the original post first and then if there is no success after everything has been tried then we can ask advice. If there is something that comes up that is not on the original post I have witnessed the updates made from the original poster to the first posts so when we access this thread we can find what we need in the first post instead of repeating the same mistakes. The more times we repeat the same issue the longer the thread will become and the harder to search for what we are looking for inparticular. I promise that it is not very often that I state opinions in this forum but I thought it was important this time and I won't say anymore. Thanks for listening

While I agree that a lot, if not all, of these questions can be answered in the main guide, some people understand things more clearly if someone is there to walk them through it. Not everyone is capable of just reading a guide and completely understanding what will then be required for them to do.

And having a thread open for people with questions to ask them, is from what I've learned so far, what this forum tries to be about. Telling someone to read the guide but dont ask questions cause it makes finding specifics harder, defeats the purpose of being a helpful group. Making a thread larger with more information, regardless of how much is repeated, just allows for different questions and answers to be explained in multiple ways, so that someone who got one answer but didnt understand it, might be able to understand it once explained in a different way..

Now, I'm not telling you what to do, and i am only speaking for myself, and voicing my own opinion as well, but I would prefer that anybody with questions to ask them freely until they understand what is being told them, or they close the topic.
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Look at your actual temps when stressing. dont just assume that if your socket temp is 62 that your cpu temp will be 7C below that. HWMonitor, HWInfo, CoreTemp all will give you "fairly" accurate temps readings. And they may differ.
You will be able to overclock your board to 4.1-4.2Ghz on that board. Just because it has 4+1 phase doesnt mean it WILL blow up when an 8+2 phase board wont. It just means the limits that board can handle may be less than a stronger phase board.
Like we've said, it just takes time, patience and trial and error to find the sweet spot for your CPU

I know it is possible to overclock on a 4+1 phase board cause I had an ASRock 970 Extreme4 with an AMD Propus 620 Overclocked from 2.6Ghz to 3.2Ghz with a Hyper 212+.Never had any issues with the board being under powered or inadequate.

So I'm on an ASRock 970 Extreme3, what difference is there between the Extreme3 and Extreme4? Yeah I'll try upping the voltage one more notch, then another and I'll test both with LLC disabled, enabled, and auto. Hopefully I can narrow down the issues that way. So if my core temp is around 46 degrees C in HW and my socket temp is 62 degrees C then the core temp is fairly accurate on HWMonitor right? Because 46 degrees seems low when my socket temp is 62. I think it should be fine because the max temp for the socket is 72 degrees C.
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So I'm on an ASRock 970 Extreme3, what difference is there between the Extreme3 and Extreme4? Yeah I'll try upping the voltage one more notch, then another and I'll test both with LLC disabled, enabled, and auto. Hopefully I can narrow down the issues that way. So if my core temp is around 46 degrees C in HW and my socket temp is 62 degrees C then the core temp is fairly accurate on HWMonitor right? Because 46 degrees seems low when my socket temp is 62. I think it should be fine because the max temp for the socket is 72 degrees C.


I use core temps to check my cpu when stress testing, HWMonitor is fairly accurate too, the difference between the core and socket temps can vary from those averages, EACH CPU/BOARD will give different results, MY BOARD AND CPU COULD BE IDENTICAL TO ANOTHER MEMBERS BUT I MAY NEED MORE VOLTAGE TO REACH THE SAME CLOCK SPEED.

start from scratch, follow the recommended settings on the first page of this guide....

Set the LLC to Auto if that was the least problematic, also check you have the latest BIOS for your board and follow the advice, if you reach 1.5v and your still not stable at 4.1Ghz, then there is an underlying issue, either with your settings or with your hardware

I don't mean to sound funny but you keep going over the same questions and not getting any closer to stable at the STOCK TURBO speed for the FX6300

LEAVE IBT out of the testing, your testing an AMD chip, run prime95 as advised, then when stable for the 10 mins as advised, run blended for at least 2 hours, if that is still stable, try folding and if you have no issues with the folding or with prime95 for at least 2 hours then your cpu is stable

I am 36 hours prime stable yet OCCT screaches and fails after less than 5 minutes, I have no issues gaming, browsing or folding yet OCCT wont pass under any settings
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