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post #611 of 4095
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So I'm on an ASRock 970 Extreme3, what difference is there between the Extreme3 and Extreme4? Yeah I'll try upping the voltage one more notch, then another and I'll test both with LLC disabled, enabled, and auto. Hopefully I can narrow down the issues that way. So if my core temp is around 46 degrees C in HW and my socket temp is 62 degrees C then the core temp is fairly accurate on HWMonitor right? Because 46 degrees seems low when my socket temp is 62. I think it should be fine because the max temp for the socket is 72 degrees C.
The socket temp, if it has no airflow directly on it, can be that much higher. And yes, i say fairly accurate, and that is meant to be taken with a grain of salt, as we discussed earlier than sensors on these boards can be a bit dull and inaccurate.

There arent much differences between the 2, i think just an extra Pci-e x16 slot mainly. Maybe another onboard USB connector as well? Other than that, everything is the same between the two as far as BIOS i would imagine.
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I am sorry. I have been following this thread for a long while and the OP answered a lot of my questions about ASUS motherboard overclocking stability. Because of the advice I was able to get my FX-8120 to 4.5GHz everyday stable without the overheating I had before. Any I don't mean to speak out of turn but this thread is going around in circles. The questions are the same and the answers never change. Now this isn't my thread but I appreciate the teachings it has from those that have experience but I must advise that before any questions need to be asked then everything must be tried from the original post first and then if there is no success after everything has been tried then we can ask advice. If there is something that comes up that is not on the original post I have witnessed the updates made from the original poster to the first posts so when we access this thread we can find what we need in the first post instead of repeating the same mistakes. The more times we repeat the same issue the longer the thread will become and the harder to search for what we are looking for inparticular. I promise that it is not very often that I state opinions in this forum but I thought it was important this time and I won't say anymore. Thanks for listening

Thanks Aas88keyz.

I haven't had much time to spend on these forums myself, and was suprised to see ~80+ new posts on my thread.
I don't mind helping but I am going to recommend to CannedBullets, that it seems it might be in your best interest to start your own thread.
It's not that others here aren't willing to help, it's just that we aren't running ASRock, which would make it difficult to replicate your issues.
By starting your own thread, you have a better chance of help from not only others with the same hardware, but also someone may have already experience and fixed the same issues you are having.

Good luck with your OCing. thumb.gif
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Thanks Aas88keyz.

I haven't had much time to spend on these forums myself, and was suprised to see ~80+ new posts on my thread.
I don't mind helping but I am going to recommend to CannedBullets, that it seems it might be in your best interest to start your own thread.
It's not that others here aren't willing to help, it's just that we aren't running ASRock, which would make it difficult to replicate your issues.
By starting your own thread, you have a better chance of help from not only others with the same hardware, but also someone may have already experience and fixed the same issues you are having.

Good luck with your OCing. thumb.gif

Yeah I'll try raising my CPU voltage and all that later after I'm done with finals, if I can't get a stable overclock at 1.4-1.5 then something is definitely wrong and I doubt it would be the CPU/NB voltage even though the NB speed is stock and the voltage is stock. I'll start a new thread for that if I still get issues.
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post #614 of 4095
Hi guys

I am trying to oc my fx8350 and i am hitting a brick wall.

My setup is as follows:
M5A99FX PRO R2.0
16GB (4X4GB) 1600mhz Kingston HyperX genesis 9-9-9-27-2T @1.65v
Nexus 1000watt psu
corsair h80i

CPU Auto voltage is 1.38v and turbo auto voltage 1.42v
CPU/NB Auto voltage is 1.2v

I have manually set the ram timings, the digi+ settings according to the guide,
cpu/nb freq(2200),ht link freq(2600), cpu and cpu/nb voltages and disabled c-states.

I have tried prime95 small fft tests up to 4.7ghz @1.5v with no problem.

My target frequency for the beginning is 4.4ghz@1.4375v with the ram @1600mhz.

HWmonitor reads 1.428min, 1.456max. Most of the time HWMon reads 1.44v
Cpu/nb voltages below 1.3v and above 1.35v are totally unstable with random freezes even when browsing.
Moving towards cpu/nb voltage of 1.3375v increased stability, but despite my high hopes of discovering an
island of stability @1.3375v (completed several hours of occt, IBT maximum setting 10 runs) after 7 hours
of prime95 custom test(12gb ram used) 1 core failed. Any increment above or below, of cpu/nbv and cpuv,
will also fail. Should i give up on trying to keep my ram @1600mhz?
Any suggestions from someone with 4 ram modules are higly appreciated.

I have also tried the alternative method with lowering the cpu/nb speed from 2200mhz to 1600mhz.
So far i have tried 4.5ghz@1.45v, 1600mhz ram, with random cpu/nb increment selection between 0.9v and 1.1v
and all failed. 1.1v was more stable than 0.9v

p.s. temps are always well within specs i.e. @1.45v 58c socket, 47c cores
thanks in advance for your help.
Edited by DeusXXX - 5/15/13 at 1:43pm
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post #615 of 4095
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Hi guys

I am trying to oc my fx8350 and i am hitting a brick wall.

My setup is as follows:
M5A99FX PRO R2.0
16GB (4X4GB) 1600mhz Kingston HyperX genesis 9-9-9-27-2T @1.65v
Nexus 1000watt psu
corsair h80i

CPU Auto voltage is 1.38v and turbo auto voltage 1.42v
CPU/NB Auto voltage is 1.2v

I have manually set the ram timings, the digi+ settings according to the guide,
cpu/nb freq(2200),ht link freq(2600), cpu and cpu/nb voltages and disabled c-states.

I have tried prime95 small fft tests up to 4.7ghz @1.5v with no problem.

My target frequency for the beginning is 4.4ghz@1.4375v with the ram @1600mhz.

HWmonitor reads 1.428min, 1.456max. Most of the time HWMon reads 1.44v
Cpu/nb voltages below 1.3v and above 1.35v are totally unstable with random freezes even when browsing.
Moving towards cpu/nb voltage of 1.3375v increased stability, but despite my high hopes of discovering an
island of stability @1.3375v (completed several hours of occt, IBT maximum setting 10 runs) after 7 hours
of prime95 custom test(12gb ram used) 1 core failed. Any increment above or below, of cpu/nbv and cpuv,
will also fail. Should i give up on trying to keep my ram @1600mhz?
Any suggestions from someone with 4 ram modules are higly appreciated.

I have also tried the alternative method with lowering the cpu/nb speed from 2200mhz to 1600mhz.
So far i have tried 4.5ghz@1.45v, 1600mhz ram, with random cpu/nb increment selection between 0.9v and 1.1v
and all failed. 1.1v was more stable than 0.9v

p.s. temps are always well within specs i.e. @1.45v 58c socket, 47c cores
thanks in advance for your help.

The problem in my opinion isnt your cpu, its more likely your 4 sticks of ram, try it with just 2 sticks just to be sure and see, maybe drop the ram but tighten the timings, the memory controller doesnt like 4 sticks as it puts strain on it, anyone knows a way round can put me straight but thats my experience so far
Edited by amd-pcmarlow - 5/15/13 at 3:38pm
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The problem in my opinion isnt your cpu, its more likely your 4 sticks of ram, try it with just 2 sticks just to be sure and see, maybe drop the ram but tighten the timings, the memory controller doesnt like 4 sticks as it puts strain on it, anyone knows a way round can put me straight but thats my experience so far
If I were to try this, removing 2 sticks out of 4. Say, I were to gain a higher overclock. Would I then have to leave those 2 sticks out of my rig from then on? Could I reinsert them afterwards with no adverse affects?

What happens?
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post #617 of 4095
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Hi guys

I am trying to oc my fx8350 and i am hitting a brick wall. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
My setup is as follows:
M5A99FX PRO R2.0
16GB (4X4GB) 1600mhz Kingston HyperX genesis 9-9-9-27-2T @1.65v
Nexus 1000watt psu
corsair h80i

CPU Auto voltage is 1.38v and turbo auto voltage 1.42v
CPU/NB Auto voltage is 1.2v

I have manually set the ram timings, the digi+ settings according to the guide,
cpu/nb freq(2200),ht link freq(2600), cpu and cpu/nb voltages and disabled c-states.

I have tried prime95 small fft tests up to 4.7ghz @1.5v with no problem.

My target frequency for the beginning is 4.4ghz@1.4375v with the ram @1600mhz.

HWmonitor reads 1.428min, 1.456max. Most of the time HWMon reads 1.44v
Cpu/nb voltages below 1.3v and above 1.35v are totally unstable with random freezes even when browsing.
Moving towards cpu/nb voltage of 1.3375v increased stability, but despite my high hopes of discovering an
island of stability @1.3375v (completed several hours of occt, IBT maximum setting 10 runs) after 7 hours
of prime95 custom test(12gb ram used) 1 core failed. Any increment above or below, of cpu/nbv and cpuv,
will also fail. Should i give up on trying to keep my ram @1600mhz?
Any suggestions from someone with 4 ram modules are higly appreciated.

I have also tried the alternative method with lowering the cpu/nb speed from 2200mhz to 1600mhz.
So far i have tried 4.5ghz@1.45v, 1600mhz ram, with random cpu/nb increment selection between 0.9v and 1.1v
and all failed. 1.1v was more stable than 0.9v

p.s. temps are always well within specs i.e. @1.45v 58c socket, 47c cores
thanks in advance for your help.

I would say that it's pretty stable from the sounds of it. If just one core failed on Prime after 7 hours, it could have been just a slight hiccup in the power control. 4.7-4.8Ghz is about the limit of the 6+2 Power Phase from what I've seen. A few members on the Piledriver owners club swapped to the Sabertooth after not breaking 4.8Ghz, and now they're at 5.0Ghz using water cooling.

Great Overclock
post #618 of 4095
I set the ram at D.O.C.P.
Settings are:

1600mhz, 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1.5v

Same settings for cpu and cpu/nb.

Despite having no hopes at all, since 24 is much tighter than 27 i previously used
and 1.5v is way low, i left it overnight to run prime95.

So far its 7 hour stable and going.
Leaving for work now and gonna check it when i come back.
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I quit prime95 at 19 hours, stable.

The only logical explanation i can think of, is that due to the reduced ram voltage
the imc suffered less and thus became stable.

You might want to add to your guide, especially if you confirm it with others using
4 ram modules, that D.O.C.P. ram settings is the way to go for this kind of setup.

I am going to try lowering the cpu/nb voltage and see if this works now.
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I quit prime95 at 19 hours, stable.

The only logical explanation i can think of, is that due to the reduced ram voltage
the imc suffered less and thus became stable.

You might want to add to your guide, especially if you confirm it with others using
4 ram modules, that D.O.C.P. ram settings is the way to go for this kind of setup.

I am going to try lowering the cpu/nb voltage and see if this works now.

If you could verify what this does outside of automatically setting the DRAM Profile based on DRAM frequency, I will definately add it to the guide.
I've seen this mentioned on other motherboard forums (not in a guide) such as Gigabyte.

As far as I know it's the same as setting your stock settings for your Ram, (correct me if I'm wrong).

I will definately list it as an option seeing as it's assisted in your Prime Stability, but I would also like to list the reason that it works.
If you manually set it to what D.O.C.P. set, will it retain it's stability
- verify if due to lower DRAM Voltage it assists in stability

Thanks very much if you could offer any insight to this, as I no longer have either of my Bulldozer/Piledriver setups for testing.

Something interesting is that I didn't have any Prime issues outside of needing extra cpu voltage. (on my 2nd Piledriver CPU as the first was defective). But I also run low voltage Samsung Green Ram @ 1.3v and never higher than 1.475v
Edited by ComputerRestore - 5/16/13 at 11:46am
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