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Hello everyone. So there have been some threads recently that have lead to "what hard drive should I buy" type questions. I have always been a huge fan of Hitachi, and when they got bought by Toshiba I knew that that's what I would be buying in the future. This isn't a speed test or review or anything, but just some facts about the drive that I would like to get out there.

For those of you not aware, Hitachi was sold to Western Digital Corporation, but to satisfy the FTC, WDC sold the 3.5" consumer Hitachi division (aka, Deskstar) to Toshiba. Here is the press release from Toshiba:
http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/media/pressreleases/TOSHIBA_20120515.pdf

There are 3 different sizes that were created once Toshiba acquired Hitachi:
DT01ACA150 (1.5TB)
DT01ACA200 (2.0TB) (~$109.99)
DT01ACA300 (3.0TB) (~$149.99)

Toshiba, prior to the acquisition, already had smaller drives using the same model numbers:
DT01ACA025 (250.0GB)
DT01ACA032 (320.0GB)
DT01ACA050 (500.0GB)
DT01ACA075 (750.0GB)
DT01ACA100 (1.0TB)

Specs for all these drives can be found here, on Toshiba's website:
http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/hdd/computing/product_detail.jsp?productid=447

But in short, the 150, 200, and 300 are the ones that I am talking about and they all have these specs:
-7200 RPM
-SATA III
-S.M.A.R.T. enabled
-64MB Cache
-URE rate of 1 error per 10^14 read (which is equivalent to 1 error per 100TB read) -- [10^13 was the common place in consumer grade drives, which was 1 error in 10TB read)
-512e Advanced Format
CCTL enabled (Hitachi's version of WDC's TLER)

Power Consumption:
Read: 5.8W to 6.4W
Write: 5.8W to 6.4W
Idle: 4.4W to 5.2W
Stand-by: 1.0W
Sleep: 1.0W

Acoustic Noise:
Idle: 25-27 dB
Seek: 26-28 dB

The warranty of these drives have been a big thing in question, that is getting misconstrued. Newegg has these drives listed with a 1 year limited warranty. This is incorrect. According to this article on Toshiba's warranty information, as of 09/01/2012 the warranty was changed for 2.5" drives from 1 year, to 3 year. I am speculating that this was supposed to list the 3.5" drives as well, but it doesn't.
http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/technical-support/warranty

I own a DT01ACA300 (3.0TB) which was manufactured on SEP-2012, and by checking the warranty info, it is In-Warranty and expires on 09/30/2015, which is 3 years from manufacturing date. The warranty is not for retail vendors only, but for consumers as well.
Toshiba offers two types of RMA, Standard Exchange and Advance Replacement. Standard Exchange is as you guess, you send your drive in and pay for the shipping, they will send you a replacement and pay for that shipping. Once RMA is created, it must be received by them within 15 calendar days or the RMA is void. Once they receive the RMA'd drive, a replacement will be sent and received generally within 5 to 10 business days. No credit card is needed.
The Advanced Replacement is similar to a cross-shipped RMA, where it requires a valid credit card, and they will send you a replacement immediately (within 4 business days after issuance of the RMA) and you must return your dead drive within 10 business days after receiving the replacement, or your credit card will be charged.

Warranty Support Page:
http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/warranty-support

Replacement Program:
http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-services-support/warranty-support/replacement-program

Check Warranty Status:
https://myapps.taec.toshiba.com/myapps/admin/jsp/webrma/addRequest1NoLogin.jsp?Action=NEW


So I hope this clears things up for some, as I think these Toshiba drives are definitely worth checking out. They work great in a storage system being that they have CCTL (Hitachi's version of TLER), and have excellent prices. If you have any questions or comments, let me know. smile.gif


EDIT:
Regarding warranty for EU residents, there is no direct Toshiba Warranty. The only warranty on these drives sold in EU is whatever the shop/retailer is providing.
http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/support_services/warranty_services.html
Edited by tycoonbob - 1/13/13 at 10:09am
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I saw the new Toshiba drives in the online parts list of some Australian retailers this morning actually.. didn't even realize they bought Hitachi. Will be using them in a few builds for other people as I've always found Toshiba drives to be pretty good anyway, so having them buy one of the better brands and potentially re-brand it and drop the price, that sounds like a GREAT thing for me and other consumers.

EDIT: Also, would the 3TB versions be a better choice than the W.D. Green 3TB EZRX drives in RAIDZ ? Do they have 24/7 reliability? The greens don't but I'm planning to go with them since they are considered to be pretty common in FreeNAS community but if the toshiba drives are just as good if not better then I may fill my NAS with them instead!
Edited by DarkRyoushii - 1/27/13 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by DarkRyoushii View Post

I saw the new Toshiba drives in the online parts list of some Australian retailers this morning actually.. didn't even realize they bought Hitachi. Will be using them in a few builds for other people as I've always found Toshiba drives to be pretty good anyway, so having them buy one of the better brands and potentially re-brand it and drop the price, that sounds like a GREAT thing for me and other consumers.

EDIT: Also, would the 3TB versions be a better choice than the W.D. Green 3TB EZRX drives in RAIDZ ? Do they have 24/7 reliability? The greens don't but I'm planning to go with them since they are considered to be pretty common in FreeNAS community but if the toshiba drives are just as good if not better then I may fill my NAS with them instead!

I personally think the Toshiba's are better than Greens. They spin faster so they perform faster and they have CCTL (WD equivalent to TLER).
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28db kinda loud isnt it?  i know my samsuung is super quiet cant even hear it.

 

guess not, just check the specs for my drive, its the same as this one.


Edited by spice003 - 1/27/13 at 1:01pm
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Yeah, 28 isn't loud. The 120mm (three of them) fans in my storage box are around 35db, which is definitely audible, but it's a server closet and the 103 CFM of airflow each is great. I don't hear any of the drives, even at spin up.
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I personally think the Toshiba's are better than Greens. They spin faster so they perform faster and they have CCTL (WD equivalent to TLER).

Thanks very much for the info! I changed my build wishlist to include them.. $149 for a 3TB drive isn't bad at all, I only wish the warranty was 5 years rather than 3 and It'd be one of the best drives on the market!
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Yes, I'm bumping-up an old thread, but I could not find any other sites that stated directly the DT01ACA300 drive supports some kind of 'error recovery control' (TLER, CCTL, ERC, etc.). Emails to Toshiba and HGST have gone to a black hole.

The following link details some dude's NAS installation with HDS723030BLE640 drives (AKA: DT01ACA300, AKA: PH3300U-1I72). In the middle of the article there is a "smartmontools" diagnostics report on HDS723030BLE640 indicating "SCT Error Recovery Control supported". So, should be safe for RAID systems:


NewEgg has this drive now for $100. Compared against the WD RED drives, these are faster for less money. Compared to WD SE class, any other enterprise-class drives, or any other drive with error recovery control, this is a steal. The OEM drive has horrible reviews on NewEgg; however. Still, I just bought four of the retail packaged drives to pair with my 9650SE. I hope this works out.

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Yes, I'm bumping-up an old thread, but I could not find any other sites that stated directly the DT01ACA300 drive supports some kind of 'error recovery control' (TLER, CCTL, ERC, etc.). Emails to Toshiba and HGST have gone to a black hole.

The following link details some dude's NAS installation with HDS723030BLE640 drives (AKA: DT01ACA300, AKA: PH3300U-1I72). In the middle of the article there is a "smartmontools" diagnostics report on HDS723030BLE640 indicating "SCT Error Recovery Control supported". So, should be safe for RAID systems:


NewEgg has this drive now for $100. Compared against the WD RED drives, these are faster for less money. Compared to WD SE class, any other enterprise-class drives, or any other drive with error recovery control, this is a steal. The OEM drive has horrible reviews on NewEgg; however. Still, I just bought four of the retail packaged drives to pair with my 9650SE. I hope this works out.

Rufis

While I have no documents on hand detailing ERC, I can say that I have been running multiple of these drives on a hardware controller (LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i) for over a year, with no issues due to ERC (or lack of -- such as drives dropping from an array). These drives are based on Hitachi 7K3000s which do have ERC.

Oh, and the reason for bad reviews on NewEgg are mainly due to NewEgg's poor packaging. I Recently bought 2 DT01ACA200s for a Hyper-V box and both were clicking when arrived. They were not securely packaged in the box, and one was laying on the bottom of the box with no padding. I know my UPS guy loves to drop boxes onto my concrete porch. RMA to Toshiba and both come back much better packed, and fully functioning for the past 1.5 months.
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A few things:

  • Drive label no longer has Hitachi part number
  • Drive manufactured on OCT-2013
  • Of the four ordered, only opened / tested one so far

After experimenting with different SMARTCTL commands, I was able to view the ERC settings.

Good News: I am able to set ERC, in seconds. redface.gif

Bad News: ERC not enabled by default; setting will not survive a power-cycle of the system. mad.gif

At least the ERC setting exists and can be modified. I suppose a script of some sort must be run at each cold-boot to re-enable ERC.

TycoonBob: I am curious if your drives, manufactured earlier, have native ERC settings enabled like an 'enterprise-class' drive.


Rufis

PS: if viewing the drive from an Intel ICHxR controller, then you must use the following convention:

/dev/csmiX,Y

Where X is the controller number (?: for me it was 2) and Y is the drive ID. This is what I had: /dev/csmi2,0 with the drive connected to the first drive port of my embedded ICHxR controller.
Edited by rufislefox - 11/12/13 at 11:01pm
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