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Hello all! I am in need of some thoughts on how to approach some work in web design. My goal is to become a front/back end developer who specializes in usability. At the moment though I only have my basic HTML/CSS skills learned. My recent attempts at learning PHP or JavaScript have been very hard.

I understand that everyone has their own opinion on what you can learn after HTML/CSS, but I would like to know what I can do right now that would allow me to apply my skills to a work environment. How would you approach this?
post #2 of 8
this a very hard question to answer.

There are too many things involved, like which pays more, number of jobs available, which has the hardest learning curve, performance, etc, etc, etc.


I would suggest reading this: http://dev.hubspot.com/blog/bid/85467/Evolution-of-a-Web-Developer-From-PHP-Newbie-To-Python-Ninja

Maybe will make you more informed, or at least will be a fun read about the topics you are looking for.


By the way, do you have any database in your curriculum? I would suggest learning mysql or any other database after HTML/CSS alongside any other language like python, PHP, asp.net or any other you choose.


I would say that you need HTML+CSS+javascript+jQuery(which is actually javascript) + database + php/python/asp.net/any other you might choose.


If you had a hard time with PHP, I would suggest trying to get into python, since they are pretty different.


Are you just trying to learn out of the blue? I mean, try to get an objective. I tried to learn PHP and it was going soooo slow, until I asked my boss to get me into a project with PHP, so I had to really deliver something, instead of just learning stuff that looks like 'meaningless"
'why am I learning this?'
in my opinion is much worse for programming than:
'How can I do that?'
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Thank you for your kind words, EduFurtado
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I'd practice every day, even for a few minutes until it becomes second nature.
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Here is another opinion that I like. It's from stack overflow:
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Security - Not language specific.

Speed - Not language specific. This is entirely a function of the overall web architecture, caching and database.

Ease of use - subjective. Nothing more to say.

Scalability - This is entirely a function of the overall web architecture, caching and database.

Maintainability - subjective at worst. At best, it's a matter of documentation, and unit testing. Neither of which are language-specific.

Extendability - what do you mean by this? Add-on libraries? It's a wash.

Will Python add an extra level of complexity? "Complexity" is subjective. Some folks think an ORM layer helps them. Others will tell you it's too much complexity. Some folks say that any web framework is "too heavyweight" and insist on writing CGI scripts. This is not a language issue.

Will it [Python? PHP?] allow better testing? This is entirely a process question. In a separate SO thread on Django, folks told me -- very specifically -- that if the unit tests are too slow, they just won't run them. Period. So unit testing (to some people) is optional. This is -- objectively -- not language-specific.

Bottom line.

All Programming Languages Work

Toss a coin.
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I'd practice every day, even for a few minutes until it becomes second nature.

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Exactly what nooboc2012 said. It should be something that you do everyday. An hour a day for a week is better that 7 hours in one day. You have to be consistent. Even if you are not feeling up for it, start an editor and let your mind do it's job, which is to think. Also keep like a diary of what things you've learned and which of them work and which do not! This was told to me by a programmer when i needed help and it helped. I sure hope it does to too.

Cheers
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I chose to go with php/sql right after learning html and css and I think it is a good path to chose. I am self taught and have made quite a bit doing freelance web coding in the last ten years and I am very glad I went the way I did. I also lucked into learning about CMS like wordpress and drupal and stuff early which has helped quite a bit. If you know html+css+php+sql you can pretttttty much do everything on the web for the most part. There is alot more, but those four plus learning about content management systems is a great place to start.
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