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Then the stock rubber standoffs of the HAF922 will be enough, right?
Well, how about for AIO CLC systems like what I have (Accelero Hybrid Cooler)? Placing the rad on the bottom makes the pump/reservoir combo the highest point in the loop. Will I have problems with air bubbles then?
If you go wit the 2 inches, what can you use to increase that clearance?

The only real drawback of having the radiator as the lowest point is that its harder to drain. In general the only thing that maters in a loop is that the pump is directly connected to the res and the res water level is higher then the pump. Even then its mainly for initial fill up purposes as a fully bleed WC loop does not really care which way or in what order its parts are.

AS for getting more clearance. Just go out and buy something like thees.




Thees are called speakers feet but they do go by other names as well. Cheap and effective.
    
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The only real drawback of having the radiator as the lowest point is that its harder to drain. In general the only thing that maters in a loop is that the pump is directly connected to the res and the res water level is higher then the pump. Even then its mainly for initial fill up purposes as a fully bleed WC loop does not really care which way or in what order its parts are.

AS for getting more clearance. Just go out and buy something like thees.




Thees are called speakers feet but they do go by other names as well. Cheap and effective.

How would you relate these to AIO CLC coolers wherein the pump and reservoir are in a combo package? I thought placing the rad below the pump would tend to make air rise up to the pump for these AIO systems?

Where can I buy those feet?
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AIOs shouldn't have any air in them. They are sealed units. Even if there is a small bubble or two, they would probably just move around in the loop. Not really an issue in my opinion.
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Then the stock rubber standoffs of the HAF922 will be enough, right?
Well, how about for AIO CLC systems like what I have (Accelero Hybrid Cooler)? Placing the rad on the bottom makes the pump/reservoir combo the highest point in the loop. Will I have problems with air bubbles then?
If you go wit the 2 inches, what can you use to increase that clearance?

Well I got nearly all the tools available at my disposal so it is easy to do, I'll just cut the bottom out and add some more sheet metal between there to get that extra 2 inches at the bottom and weld it all back together with TIG.
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When you do this think of how low the motherboad sits and how high the radiator will sit.This can change with radiator mounting method,if you are push/pull in your fan setup,if you use both a 38mm fan and a 38mm fan housing or radiator box.What will end up happening is the lower part of the motherboard (where there are a lot of hookups) gets covered up and hard to get to.I have one I moved the motherboard tray up as far as possible.This gave me room for mounting the way I wanted and using the fan setup I wanted.
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When you do this think of how low the motherboad sits and how high the radiator will sit.This can change with radiator mounting method,if you are push/pull in your fan setup,if you use both a 38mm fan and a 38mm fan housing or radiator box.What will end up happening is the lower part of the motherboard (where there are a lot of hookups) gets covered up and hard to get to.I have one I moved the motherboard tray up as far as possible.This gave me room for mounting the way I wanted and using the fan setup I wanted.

Yeah the plan has been for now that I move the motherboard all the way to the top and I will also cut out all the 5.25/HDD trays from the front and see what I will do about them, the trays from my old Sonata III are a lot "slimmer" so will prolly put those there instead.
I will propably move the PSU to the bottom aswell with the Radiator, should fit there just abouts but only way to tell really is to wait to get the Rad smile.gif
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If you do this for a while you will start to accumulate "mock-up" components who's only use is to check the fit.In one Antec 1200 I turned the power supply around (it was a pretty short Corsair 520) and put it at the very bottom hdd spot.With Antec and Corsair the space allowed for an hdd is about 1/16 too narrow for a power supply to simply slip in.I had to move the side of the cage just a small amount.My goal was having a power supply mounted on the bottom,exhaust facing out,using a hdd spot I would never ever use and still have room for a bottom mount 360.One thing with the 1200 (the old dog that it is) it is comparitivly narrow in all aspects.I said that I only spaced it 1.5 off the ground,well I lied as I get so much grief when I say I used 3.5" tall wheels and pillow blocks for axels that were originaly intended for a swamp cooler (evaporative style) air conditioner.Sure it looks "towable" but it is so easy to wheel around the room.I really cannot bear to mod out a nice case like you are doing or my HAF 932,just can't lay a tool on those.I will work a Antec 300 over without hesitation.
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AIOs shouldn't have any air in them. They are sealed units. Even if there is a small bubble or two, they would probably just move around in the loop. Not really an issue in my opinion.

But you have to let that small air bubble stay at the radiator and keep it from circling the loop, right?
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When you do this think of how low the motherboad sits and how high the radiator will sit.This can change with radiator mounting method,if you are push/pull in your fan setup,if you use both a 38mm fan and a 38mm fan housing or radiator box.What will end up happening is the lower part of the motherboard (where there are a lot of hookups) gets covered up and hard to get to.I have one I moved the motherboard tray up as far as possible.This gave me room for mounting the way I wanted and using the fan setup I wanted.

What is "this" in this post? Is this directed to the OP?
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post #19 of 60
Putting a rad on the bottom makes for alot of advantages when it comes to bleeding and that the air at the bottom is typicly cooler (heat rises remember) So long as you've got an open bottom case and decent static pressure fans, REally shouldn't be a big deal
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Putting a rad on the bottom makes for alot of advantages when it comes to bleeding and that the air at the bottom is typicly cooler (heat rises remember) So long as you've got an open bottom case and decent static pressure fans, REally shouldn't be a big deal


I personaly wish my radiators could be on the bottom :<</div>

Bleeding is removing air bubbles right? You mean you do want air TO BE in the loop?

For fan placement in the bottom fan, should it be case->fan->rad (push) or case->rad->fan (pull)? Both setup as intake.
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