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They made a movie about this once: It's called The Matrix.

I must be missing your point also, because hypothetically speaking...

If NO humans were alive on earth, earth would still exist. The oceans would still exist. The land would still exist.

It would just be an un-inhabited planet, simply because humans aren't around to perceive it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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They made a movie about this once: It's called The Matrix.

I must be missing your point also, because hypothetically speaking...

If NO humans were alive on earth, earth would still exist. The oceans would still exist. The land would still exist.

It would just be an un-inhabited planet, simply because humans aren't around to perceive it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

See though, you're really missing the point of the argument. What would these things be if there wasn't something around that was naming and defining them? Not much different from the other stuff, if you ask me. edit: cuz really, in the scheme of everything, land and air and water and light and all that, are really just different instances of the same thing (strings? quantum foam? Simple energy? We don't really know yet, but I think I made my point).

The universe would just be one big pile of something-or-other without us.
Edited by un-midas touch - 1/16/13 at 11:51pm
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See though, you're really missing the point of the argument. What would these things be if there wasn't something around that was naming and defining them? Not much different from the other stuff, if you ask me. edit: cuz really, in the scheme of everything, land and air and water and light and all that, are really just different instances of the same thing (strings? quantum foam? Simple energy? We don't really know yet, but I think I made my point).

The universe would just be one big pile of something-or-other without us.

The universe would be exactly the same without us, minus our planet and the space probes/radio waves). Us referring to water as "water", or "agua" or " 水" doesn't change it's form, chemical composition, behavior, or any of that. H20 is H20, whether or not there's a few billion self-aware bags of carbon sitting around to call it that.
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See though, you're really missing the point of the argument. What would these things be if there wasn't something around that was naming and defining them? Not much different from the other stuff, if you ask me. edit: cuz really, in the scheme of everything, land and air and water and light and all that, are really just different instances of the same thing (strings? quantum foam? Simple energy? We don't really know yet, but I think I made my point).

The universe would just be one big pile of something-or-other without us.

How's that peyote treating you?
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See though, you're really missing the point of the argument. What would these things be if there wasn't something around that was naming and defining them? Not much different from the other stuff, if you ask me. edit: cuz really, in the scheme of everything, land and air and water and light and all that, are really just different instances of the same thing (strings? quantum foam? Simple energy? We don't really know yet, but I think I made my point).

The universe would just be one big pile of something-or-other without us.

I can't believe I'm replying to this again, but here goes...

Air would be air, an ocean would be made of water, land would be land, the Sun would still be the Sun. None of those things require any human interaction or acknowledgement in order to exist.

You're gonna have to link me to your sources so I can understand what you're saying better, because you're missing the MAIN BIG point: Just because something or someone isn't around to "name" or "define" anything, doesn't mean it didn't originally exist, especially here on Earth.

The Dinosaurs were around long before humans existed, and Earth was around long before the Dinosaurs.

Before humans were around, the land and oceans were here, they didn't magically appear just because humans acknowledged and named them such.

This planet doesn't need human acknowledgement or interaction in order to exist, in fact, it would be a much healthier, and less toxic planet if no humans were polluting it. wink.gif
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I can't believe I'm replying to this again, but here goes...

Air would be air, an ocean would be made of water, land would be land, the Sun would still be the Sun. None of those things require any human interaction or acknowledgement in order to exist.

You're gonna have to link me to your sources so I can understand what you're saying better, because you're missing the MAIN BIG point: Just because something or someone isn't around to "name" or "define" anything, doesn't mean it didn't originally exist, especially here on Earth.

The Dinosaurs were around long before humans existed, and Earth was around long before the Dinosaurs.

Before humans were around, the land and oceans were here, they didn't magically appear just because humans acknowledged and named them such.

This planet doesn't need human acknowledgement or interaction in order to exist, in fact, it would be a much healthier, and less toxic planet if no humans were polluting it. wink.gif


This.

Also: Congrats on 250rep man.

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One question is still bothering me, at what speed are we moving relative to the universe ?
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One question is still bothering me, at what speed are we moving relative to the universe ?

Relative to which part of the universe? Relative to the sun, 66,660MPH (~107,000 KPH).
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This.
Also: Congrats on 250rep man.

Thanks bud! thumb.gif
Edited by 2010rig - 1/17/13 at 6:27am
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Some efilists hangin around here. If I wasn't here, I couldn't experience the universe. So if you want to call that some kind of huge self aggrandized human ego trip, go ahead. See, it is in recognising how small and insignificant we really are in the scheme of things, and persisting in our endeavors in spite of that, that we show our true value. So what if the world can't actually experience us back or something. It is ours because we have some level of control over it. We're not completely and utterly at the mercy of it. That makes us significant.
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