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it depends on the CPU. an intel pentium isn't going to outperform an FX-8350 even if your gaming, even if it's downclocked, and even if that pentiums an SB. But the i7 will. it's not about speed that way, it's about speed per $. to compare amd and intel that way:

$80 Intel-PentiumSB AMD-A6. = Intel gets it's ass kicked.
$100-$130 Intel-i3. AMD-A10/FX4300. = Intel comes closer but still gets it's ass kicked.
$150 Intel-lockedi5. AMD-FX6300 = Intel gets it's ass kicked
$170-200 Intel-i5k AMD-FX8350- while Intel matches/small bit better gaming, overall gets it's ass kicked.

$250+ AMD can no longer compete.


for the high end AMD can not output the kind of power needed to match the i7s. but they don't price that way. in every bracket they price in, they are the better choice. Will get flamed, but >$250=Intel <$250=AMD
that is true also, AMD is really good for the money with a budget, you can't beat them in that. I do agree the i3's don't perform as well as AMD at that price point. I myself wouldn't even consider an i3 for a small budget, I would go AMD if that was the case.
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Doesn't really matter that much once there are more than enough CPU resources.
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I'm talking about the games that are more CPU-bound, where certain Intel processors will edge out an AMD processor (bottleneck). I've paired a 5770 with a Phenom II X4 and a 3930k, it performed pretty much the exact same (HT off, 2 cores disabled). Certain games were a little smoother (faster processor), but on the whole, he's right, and I may have said some things that weren't worded correctly tongue.gif It's all about the system as a whole, not just the CPU/GPU.

Hey, at least AMD doesn't lock down and say you can't game till you go to the Red side. The fact that you can use any graphics card with any processor is cool in itself.
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that is true also, AMD is really good for the money with a budget, you can't beat them in that. I do agree the i3's don't perform as well as AMD at that price point. I myself wouldn't even consider an i3 for a small budget, I would go AMD if that was the case.

IMO the 8350 doesn't necessarily beat a 3570K, they're different CPUs geared towards different tasks. The Intel is a bit better overall in gaming ( in a CPU bound scenario) but the FX is more flexible, offering noteworthy performance in multi-threaded applications. It really depends on what you want to do with your rig.

The only thing holding i3s back is the fact that they're locked ( seriously, I can't stress this enough). They're zippy little processors, but the fx gets the edge because it's unlocked.
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The fact that you can use any graphics card with any processor is cool in itself.

this is true.
     
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IMO the 8350 doesn't necessarily beat a 3570K, they're different CPUs geared towards different tasks. The Intel is a bit better overall in gaming ( in a CPU bound scenario) but the FX is more flexible, offering noteworthy performance in multi-threaded applications. It really depends on what you want to do with your rig.

The only thing holding i3s back is the fact that they're locked ( seriously, I can't stress this enough). They're zippy little processors, but the fx gets the edge because it's unlocked.
yeah well, I never said anything about an 8350 beating a 3570k. im talking about a low price point, like i3 or AMD's APU wise
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yeah well, I never said anything about an 8350 beating a 3570k. im talking about a low price point, like i3 or AMD's APU wise

Wrong person, sorry. I meant to quote the other guy tongue.gif
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I have a 680 paired with my 8350, held on to the top 20 for single card catzilla. The only time you really are going to see a diff. is if you sli or xfire, but amd chips do pair better with say 2 7970's than two 680's, or at least the amd cards scale a little better when paired with their counterpart. Really in this day an age a decent qaudcore will do every you need for gaming. If you are planning on going 2 cards intel would be the better choice but for single cards, 99% of games will not make a diff. more so in dx11 games as it is coded pretty well for all current hardware.
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I hate to say it... and I may get flamed... but pretty much any GPU will run better with it's paired with an Intel processor ).


Just cause you get more fps with a 7870 powered by a intel cpu over a amd cpu, that dosent mean the gpu is better. It means the intel cpu is doing a better job at the work then amd.


1. He didn't say it makes the gpu intrinsically better, but you make this a point. Why?
2. You are essentially saying the same thing lol.
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