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I really need to get at least 4.5ghz or 4.4ghz for Dolphin Emulator and PCSX2 i heard the AMD FX CPUs were't that good in emulators if am correct thats why i really need to push this chip further to have a good emu experience. ON Dolphin EMULATOR I NEED ALOT OF CPU POWER TO RUN DSP LLE

you heard? where? is it a reliable source? this is where i agree from a poster in another thread that a better cpu is in order. i'll tell you straight up - 4.5GHz is a tall order for the 960Ts. here is an old thread but you might get some help to reach your goal . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1051036/dolphin-emulator-dolphin-3-0-released/130
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I'm going to have to agree with everyone in this thread. I had a 1090T until recently when I got an FX-8350. That thing couldn't even do 4ghz stable on all cores with 1.6v and very good air cooling. I ran it 4.1ghz on 3 cores, 3.6ghz on the others, 1.55v using ROG Turbo-V Evo to clock the good and bad cores individually.

Now, I may have just had a bad chip, but it seemed to me that the Phenom IIs took a tremendous amount of vcore to be stable past 4ghz. Another box here has a C3 Deneb 555 x2 unlocked to Quad, it's 4ghz but also at 1.55v with high LLC. A C2 550be quad unlocked couldn't even boot Windows at 4ghz no matter what vcore you gave it- and I tried some tremendously high voltage through it in vain.

Keep in mind the Phenom II's are 2008 tech. They weren't even originally designed as 6 cores. They take a tremendously high amount of vcore just to be stable at 4ghz, 4.5ghz is really pushing it. If you have a good AM3+ board with 8+2 power phase VRMs, I'd suggest upgrading to a Bulldozer or Piledriver based system if you are that set on getting a 4.5ghz overclock (which those will do easily).

Like the others said, you would need something like phase change cooling, peltier, or LN2 to run stable at 4.5ghz, and probably upwards of 1.65v ~1.70v through the chip.

I ran Dolphin and pcsx2 on my system flawlessly at 60fps with my 1090T and an oc'ed 6870. Believe it or not, those emulators are more GPU bound than CPU. If you are getting lag or bad fps in the games you're trying to play on them, I would first check the emulator settings and config, and also whether or not the games you are trying to play have compatibility issues with the emulators. A big piece of advice I can give here is to run your emus using DirectX 9 plugins, which are faster than the newer plugins. Also, look into anything having to do with the fog emulation.

I remember overclocking an AMD k6-2 350mhz to 500mhz using jumpers on the motherboard in 1999 to get more FPS in NeorageX and Zsnes. Back then, 3d technology and emulators were primitive and not even used. The emulators were written in assembly and were entirely CPU bound. Unfortunately, with today's complex, modern emulators that make extensive use of DirectX, your performance is less about the CPU and more the GPU. The only exception is in things like SSE2 instructions which both of those emulators practically require to function properly- Phenom IIs have up to SSE3 and so have no trouble with them. I have however tried to run pcsx2 on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+, which trust me was not a pretty sight. 5 fps average lol

Hope this helps.
Edited by neurotix - 1/14/13 at 8:18pm
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i can run dolphin fine with stock clocks on my 965. you dont need to oc to get better performance with this. but do you know what would be better? BUY A GAMECUBE
I do have a gamecube just that the games are seriously scratched so thats why i use dolphin. u say you amd 965 is good ok then tell me how ur performance is with the dsp lle pluging do you get choppy and distorted sound. dsp lle is a must for me in games that need it AKA super mario glaxy and mario kart double dash , paper mario thousand year door
Edited by lumbeechief - 1/15/13 at 12:13am
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get your disks repaired then, it costs a whole lot less than a new motherboard
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the disc are unrepairable mad.gif
Edited by lumbeechief - 1/15/13 at 12:09pm
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i nee a new motherboard like i said my previous motherboard 890GXM dided on me, thats why this thread is to recommend me me a motherboard either the gigabyte 970a ud3 8+2 phase or the ASUS M5A99X EVO 6+2 phase, and about my performance in the emulators are pretty great even at 4x resolution on both dolphin and pcsx2, my only problem is dsp lle that has distorted sound on games that require it like this game please read up on this link and tell me if i can run with dsp lle http://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Super_Mario_Galaxy go to test test entries and click show.
Edited by lumbeechief - 1/15/13 at 12:08pm
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lumbeechief, any of those board will be good at overclocking but not quite sure how far, since oc'ing depends on the chip, ram, cooling, and even psu. based on wthen's experience with dolphin, it looks like you really do not have to have a high clock in the first place.

one thing to note, though, is that i read the R2.0 boards may not be able to unlock your 960T.
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lumbeechief, any of those board will be good at overclocking but not quite sure how far, since oc'ing depends on the chip, ram, cooling, and even psu. based on wthen's experience with dolphin, it looks like you really do not have to have a high clock in the first place.

one thing to note, though, is that i read the R2.0 boards may not be able to unlock your 960T.
Asus R2.0 boards Doesn't have core unlocker.

EDIT
Dolphin can run on about any PC. I run it on my laptop sametimes when I'm away from home.
Edited by dixson01974 - 1/15/13 at 9:15pm
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