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Is there anyway i can change some setting in my bios to get my temps atleast 5 degrees down from 80 to say 75 so i can run my pc at all the time overclock of atleast 4.0?
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Evo 212 here ... Can't believe I was recommended this cooler to no end from all sources and it's pants....


THIS is the problem with band-wagon-jumping noobs who think they f-ing know everything because they've read an article on Toms.

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The Hyper 212 is NOT a good cooler recommendation for a 3770k, in any way shape or form. A CPU that costs that much and runs that hot - especially if intended to overclock - should be cooled by something WAY more significant.

But every dumb-ass who has heard the Hyper212 was good value for SandyBridge (it was) continues to recommend it for everyone, for every build, because they're too uneducated on the hardware-scene and too overconfident in their limited and predictable "knowledge".

It's the exact same thing as these wonderful examples of stupidity and short-sightedness (in the last couple years):

"4gb of RAM is plenty for gaming"
"1gb of VRAM is plenty for 1080p"
"2gb of VRAM is plenty for 1440p"
"Games don't use more than 2 cores."
"Games don't use more than 4 cores."

and now we can add to the list

"You're building a 3970x build and want to hit 5.2ghz?"

"COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 IS DA BEST!!!"

Fools.

People who don't know what they're talking about - enough to see and understand the nuances of a persons build, budget, intended uses, etc - and who are incapable of contextualizing such within a time frame and the shifts and dynamics of computer hardware (whether that be requirements for applications or maintaining temps or functionality/compatibility into the future) should just shut their freaking mouths before making suggestions to people that cost them money and leave them disappointed with their choices.

As always:

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

In this case, the "doubt" is simply the questioning and evaluating of needs and hardware components. The "cocksure" is people who suggest hardware components ONLY because they are the popular components, and NOT because they suit the needs of the user.

End Rant.

OP - just get the Corsair H100i. Compatibility, performance, quietness, ease of mind. It's no custom-loop, but it'll keep your temps as low as possible, as quiet as possible, without going full water cooling or modding your case to fit the Kraken x60. It's realistically only a fraction more expensive, but why settle when you have a beast CPU that is known to run really hot.

The only other suggestion is to de-lid your CPU ... which will work if you have the balls to kill your warranty (and risk killing the chip) on a fairly expensive piece of hardware.
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The Phanteks PH-TC14PE are neck to neck with the Noctua NH-D14 those 2 are very close

There is also the Thermalright Silver Arrow as said above

Other dual tower coolers are
The Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 2
The Alpenföhn K2
The Cogage Arrow
Silverstone also has a new one cooming soon cant remember the name on that one

Anything dual tower cooler i left out?
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willibj - Couldn't agree more. Been awhile since I bought all high-end and even a so called expert at the e-tailer said it would be fine. Really cheesed as I've bought two and wasted £50. Not comfortable the 3770k running as hot as it is. I've not let it over 78c and I hope that hasn't degraded it or shortened it's life.

I wonder if I could use the h100i at the top but keep the dampening lid on?

kuruptx - I've managed 4.0Ghz @ 1.17v and as I said my temps are not too comfortable but under everyday use it's under 75c.
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what TIM (thermal paste) are you using and how did you apply it. once upon a time i was using bad TIM and my temps were 15+ degrees higher. it might just be your TIM
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post #16 of 45
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Is there anyway i can change some setting in my bios to get my temps atleast 5 degrees down from 80 to say 75 so i can run my pc at all the time overclock of atleast 4.0?

Well you could switch off Hyperthreading. That would probably get you around a 6-7 C reduction in heat. However that's not a very good idea as it would also reduce performance. The only other way is to try and get the OC to hold stable with less voltages. That's where real OC skills come into play.
    
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what TIM (thermal paste) are you using and how did you apply it. once upon a time i was using bad TIM and my temps were 15+ degrees higher. it might just be your TIM

MX-4. Tried 3 methods and reapplied 4 times no difference.
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willibj - Couldn't agree more. Been awhile since I bought all high-end and even a so called expert at the e-tailer said it would be fine. Really cheesed as I've bought two and wasted £50. Not comfortable the 3770k running as hot as it is. I've not let it over 78c and I hope that hasn't degraded it or shortened it's life.

I wonder if I could use the h100i at the top but keep the dampening lid on?

kuruptx - I've managed 4.0Ghz @ 1.17v and as I said my temps are not too comfortable but under everyday use it's under 75c.

anything below 105C(TJmax for Ivy) have negligible chance of shortening the CPU's life(assuming a safe voltage) otherwise Intel would lower the TJmax to save themselves warranty money, thus you are fine there. Just get a All in One Close loop water solution, H100i/Water 2.0 etc( I would advise not keeping the lid on as it may force hot air exhaust to recirculate if you run it in push or reduce the amount air going through radiator if you mount it as pull.

212 is overhyped in the Ivy age for sure, but your case(550D) is the worst case scenario for a air cooler to begin with as it have 2 very weak 120mm intake stock fan & the front cover reduces air intake drastically. So I would get a AIO Water solution over a twin tower air cooler.
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willibj - Couldn't agree more. Been awhile since I bought all high-end and even a so called expert at the e-tailer said it would be fine. Really cheesed as I've bought two and wasted £50. Not comfortable the 3770k running as hot as it is. I've not let it over 78c and I hope that hasn't degraded it or shortened it's life.

I wonder if I could use the h100i at the top but keep the dampening lid on?

kuruptx - I've managed 4.0Ghz @ 1.17v and as I said my temps are not too comfortable but under everyday use it's under 75c.

Those temps seem very high, regardless of hardware. How is you case's airflow? If you are running everything on air, you really need to have plenty of intake fans bringing positive pressure to your case to ensure plenty of fresh and cool air for your CPU and GPU heatsinks.

I would think that using the H100i with the dampening lid on will be terrible. I wouldn't bother trying personally.

you are going to have to make some compromises here.
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Weak due to stock fans but very clear, did a good job of cabling if I do say so myself. I could go for a h80i I guess and save a little bit of money. I'm after less noise but guess I can't have both.

Edit: GPU seems cool at no more than 56c from what I've seen, so I'm guessing a closed loop would solve my thermal issues.
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